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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 19:57:31 GMT
What bus routes would you increase or decrease the frequency of to more suit capacity and to what to? Please note, you must not make changes to the route.
I would:
20: Reduced from every 15 mins to every 20 mins Monday to Saturday
58: Increased from every 10 mins to every 8 mins Monday to Saturday and from every 15 mins to every 12 mins Sundays and evenings.
86: Increased from every 10 mins to every 8 mins on Sundays
97: Increased from every 8 mins to every 6 mins Monday to Saturday and from every 12-15 mins to every 10 mins Sundays and evenings.
123: Increased from every 11 mins to every 8 mins Monday to Saturday and from every 15 mins to every 12 mins Sundays and evenings.
158: Increased from every 10 mins to every 8 mins Monday to Saturdays and from every 15 mins to every 12 mins during evenings. Sunday frequency remains the same.
208: Increased from every 12 mins to every 10 mins Monday to Saturday and from every 15 mins to every 12 mins Sundays and evenings.
241: Reduced from every 10 mins to every 12 mins during peak times and Saturday mornings and every 12 mins to every 15 mins during Weekday shopping hours. Times not mentioned to remain the same.
275: Increased from every 12 mins to every 10 mins Monday to Saturday and from every 20 mins to every 15 mins Sundays and evenings.
W16: Increased from every 12 mins to every 10 mins Monday to Saturday and from every 20 mins to every 15 mins Sundays and evenings.
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Post by snoggle on May 3, 2016 20:26:25 GMT
What bus routes would you increase or decrease the frequency of to more suit capacity and to what to? Please note, you must not make changes to the route. I would: 20: Reduced from every 15 mins to every 20 mins Monday to Saturday 58: Increased from every 10 mins to every 8 mins Monday to Saturday and from every 15 mins to every 12 mins Sundays and evenings. 86: Increased from every 10 mins to every 8 mins on Sundays 97: Increased from every 8 mins to every 6 mins Monday to Saturday and from every 12-15 mins to every 10 mins Sundays and evenings. 123: Increased from every 11 mins to every 8 mins Monday to Saturday and from every 15 mins to every 12 mins Sundays and evenings. 158: Increased from every 10 mins to every 8 mins Monday to Saturdays and from every 15 mins to every 12 mins during evenings. Sunday frequency remains the same. 208: Increased from every 12 mins to every 10 mins Monday to Saturday and from every 15 mins to every 12 mins Sundays and evenings. 241: Reduced from every 10 mins to every 12 mins during peak times and Saturday mornings and every 12 mins to every 15 mins during Weekday shopping hours. Times not mentioned to remain the same. 275: Increased from every 12 mins to every 10 mins Monday to Saturday and from every 20 mins to every 15 mins Sundays and evenings. W16: Increased from every 12 mins to every 10 mins Monday to Saturday and from every 20 mins to every 15 mins Sundays and evenings. 20 - don't agree. I'm not sure I see the point of depriving the large Debden estate of a decent local service. 58 - agree. It is often tremendously busy. 86 - don't know enough to comment. 97 - don't agree. I don't see the point of overbussing the section north of Walthamstow Central which is what would happen. 123 - agree on Sunday daytimes. As I've said endless numbers of times I'd be happy to get x10 back M-S. We have had "temporary" timetables for *3* years now. That's just ridiculous.  158 - not sure. I don't use it enough or see it enough to comment. 208 - don't know enough to comment. 241 - don't know enough to comment. 275 - don't agree. x12 is decent enough and there is usually plenty of capacity. I don't see the point of a more frequent evening and Sunday service. W16 - I think the bigger issue here is vehicle size. If larger vehicles could be used then they'd be a useful start. I agree the route is busy and needs help at times but part of the issue is reliability. Go Ahead seem to struggle badly with the route. The big problem is that if you shove up the frequency then you're likely to get a demand surge which could overwhelm the service even more despite more buses running! I'd see if 10.2m buses could fit on the route and deploy those first. If that doesn't work then frequency or a route restructure or an overlapping service might be needed to help out. Maybe x15 on Sunday shopping hours would be a help. |
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Post by thesquirrels on May 3, 2016 20:45:17 GMT
What bus routes would you increase or decrease the frequency of to more suit capacity and to what to? Please note, you must not make changes to the route. I would: 20: Reduced from every 15 mins to every 20 mins Monday to Saturday 58: Increased from every 10 mins to every 8 mins Monday to Saturday and from every 15 mins to every 12 mins Sundays and evenings. 86: Increased from every 10 mins to every 8 mins on Sundays 97: Increased from every 8 mins to every 6 mins Monday to Saturday and from every 12-15 mins to every 10 mins Sundays and evenings. 123: Increased from every 11 mins to every 8 mins Monday to Saturday and from every 15 mins to every 12 mins Sundays and evenings. 158: Increased from every 10 mins to every 8 mins Monday to Saturdays and from every 15 mins to every 12 mins during evenings. Sunday frequency remains the same. 208: Increased from every 12 mins to every 10 mins Monday to Saturday and from every 15 mins to every 12 mins Sundays and evenings. 241: Reduced from every 10 mins to every 12 mins during peak times and Saturday mornings and every 12 mins to every 15 mins during Weekday shopping hours. Times not mentioned to remain the same. 275: Increased from every 12 mins to every 10 mins Monday to Saturday and from every 20 mins to every 15 mins Sundays and evenings. W16: Increased from every 12 mins to every 10 mins Monday to Saturday and from every 20 mins to every 15 mins Sundays and evenings. 20 - don't agree. I'm not sure I see the point of depriving the large Debden estate of a decent local service. 58 - agree. It is often tremendously busy. 86 - don't know enough to comment. 97 - don't agree. I don't see the point of overbussing the section north of Walthamstow Central which is what would happen. 123 - agree on Sunday daytimes. As I've said endless numbers of times I'd be happy to get x10 back M-S. We have had "temporary" timetables for *3* years now. That's just ridiculous. 158 - not sure. I don't use it enough or see it enough to comment. 208 - don't know enough to comment. 241 - don't know enough to comment. 275 - don't agree. x12 is decent enough and there is usually plenty of capacity. I don't see the point of a more frequent evening and Sunday service. W16 - I think the bigger issue here is vehicle size. If larger vehicles could be used then they'd be a useful start. I agree the route is busy and needs help at times but part of the issue is reliability. Go Ahead seem to struggle badly with the route. The big problem is that if you shove up the frequency then you're likely to get a demand surge which could overwhelm the service even more despite more buses running! I'd see if 10.2m buses could fit on the route and deploy those first. If that doesn't work then frequency or a route restructure or an overlapping service might be needed to help out. Maybe x15 on Sunday shopping hours would be a help. I'm in broad agreement with the comments above. The 241 loads heavily towards the Stratford end and I don't think any reduction would be easily born by the 69 or 473, although the CT end of the route is relatively quiet much of the time. A few years ago I would have made the same argument about the 158 as is being made of the 97 - that supply north of Walthamstow (or Forest Road, for the sake of drawing a line) is more than adequate, but the intensification of housing developments and changing demographics around Billet Lane and Higham Hill are putting more and more pressure on the section of the 158 between Walthamstow/Blackhorse Road and the Crooked Billet - the section between Stratford and Markhouse has always been prone to heavy loadings but the high water mark for that has crept north in recent years - it is only really the Billet - Chingford Mount end of the route that is lightlly loaded these days. An increase is about due. I don't think the 275 needs an increase. It could probably stomach a minor reduction outside of peaks, though I can't see that suggestion being popular. |
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Post by vjaska on May 3, 2016 20:52:16 GMT
37: Monday to Saturday from every 10 minutes to every 7-8 minutes & Evenings from every 12-15 minutes to every 10 minutes
118: Monday to Saturday from every 12 minutes to every 10 minutes & Sundays from every 20 minutes to every 12-15 minutes
196: Monday to Saturday from every 12 minutes to every 10 minutes & Sunday's from every 20 minutes to every 15 minutes
432: Monday to Saturday from every 12 minutes to every 10 minutes & Sunday's from every 15 minutes to every 12 minutes
P4: Monday to Saturday from every 12 minutes to every 10 minutes
Night 37: Friday's & Saturday's from every 30 minutes to every 15-20 minutes
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Post by snoggle on May 3, 2016 20:53:14 GMT
A few years ago I would have made the same argument about the 158 as is being made of the 97 - that supply north of Walthamstow (or Forest Road, for the sake of drawing a line) is more than adequate, but the intensification of housing developments and changing demographics around Billet Lane and Higham Hill are putting more and more pressure on the section of the 158 between Walthamstow/Blackhorse Road and the Crooked Billet - the section between Stratford and Markhouse has always been prone to heavy loadings but the high water mark for that has crept north in recent years - it is only really the Billet - Chingford Mount end of the route that is lightlly loaded these days. An increase is about due. I don't think the 275 needs an increase. It could probably stomach a minor reduction outside of peaks, though I can't see that suggestion being popular. See my comments in "Stagecoach London" about the 58 /158 issue. I agree with what you say. Also agree about the 275 - could go down to x15 off peak without any great hardship. PM peaks out of Walthamstow are a different case though plus travel to / from Waltham Forest College although lots of students walk nowadays. |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 21:16:05 GMT
37: Monday to Saturday from every 10 minutes to every 7-8 minutes & Evenings from every 12-15 minutes to every 10 minutes 118: Monday to Saturday from every 12 minutes to every 10 minutes & Sundays from every 20 minutes to every 12-15 minutes 196: Monday to Saturday from every 12 minutes to every 10 minutes & Sunday's from every 20 minutes to every 15 minutes 432: Monday to Saturday from every 12 minutes to every 10 minutes & Sunday's from every 15 minutes to every 12 minutes P4: Monday to Saturday from every 12 minutes to every 10 minutes Night 37: Friday's & Saturday's from every 30 minutes to every 15-20 minutes |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 21:28:19 GMT
Good suggestions. I did write to TFL about the P4 frequency and peak hour overcrowding on the route and suggested an frequency increase. They did thank me for my comments and said they were aware of problems on the P4 route and that they would keep the route under regular review. That was about a year ago. I hope TFL are still reviewing the P4 and will introduce a frequency increase as part of the next tender award.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 21:30:47 GMT
Sorry Vjaska do not know what happened there were trying to quote you.
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Post by vjaska on May 3, 2016 21:46:23 GMT
Sorry Vjaska do not know what happened there were trying to quote you. No worries mate - in regards to the P4, I might send a reply in as well and see what happens. |
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Post by COBO on May 3, 2016 21:50:44 GMT
92: Increased from every 8 to every 7-8 minutes Monday to Friday.
395: Increased from every 20 to every 12 minutes Monday to Saturday.
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Post by Green Kitten on May 3, 2016 22:07:42 GMT
298 to every 15 (and 20 in the evenings) ;D
Well, I can dream, can't I!
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Post by 700101 on May 3, 2016 22:16:41 GMT
47 - Monday to Saturday from every 10 minutes to every 8 - 10 minutes & Evenings from every 15 minutes to every 12 minutes. Sunday daytime from every 15 minutes to every 12 minutes. Weekend nights from every 30 minutes to every 20 minutes
108 - Monday to Sat evening from every 15 mins to every 12 mins, Sunday from every 15 minutes to every 12 minutes
181 - Monday to Saturday from every 12 minutes to every 10 minutes
Agree with the 208 frequency increase
380 - AM & PM peak increase from every 12 minutes to every 10 minutes
Agree with the P4 frequency increase
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Post by bigbaddom1981 on May 3, 2016 22:49:41 GMT
Here are my thoughts
I'm sure most won't be surprised by my first
192 daytime frequency remains at x10 but with peak at x7/8. Evenings at x12 instead of x15
W3 frequency x5 daytime, x8 evenings
221 x5 to North Finchley x10 to Edgware, evenings x10
144 x5/6 daytime, x10 evenings and 24 hour service with buses x30
Think that is it for now
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Post by LX09FBJ on May 3, 2016 23:25:36 GMT
Some of my ideas for now:
111 from every 8-9 minutes peaks and 10 minutes daytime to every 8 minutes Monday-Saturday daytime
190 from every 15 minutes Monday-Saturday and every 20 minutes Sunday daytime to every 10 minutes Monday-Saturday and every 15 minutes Sunday daytime
216 from every 20 minutes Monday-Saturday and every 30 minutes Sunday daytime to every 15 minutes Monday-Saturday and every 20 minutes Sunday daytime
337 from every 12 minutes Monday-Saturday to every 10 minutes Monday-Saturday
R68 from every 15 minutes Monday-Saturday to every 10 minutes Monday-Saturday
R70 from 10 minutes Monday-Saturday to every 8 minutes Monday-Saturday daytime, or at least every 8 minutes peaks
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2016 5:39:03 GMT
71 To every 6 mins Mon-Fri peaks & 10 mins Sunday shopping hours.
110 To every 15 mins Mon-Sat , and every 20 mins Sunday & evenings.
120 To every 8 mins Mon-Sat daytime , 12 mins evenings. Every 10 mins Sunday shopping hours.
203 To every 20 mins Sunday shopping hours.
227 To every 10 mins Sunday shopping hours.
465 Revised to run hourly to Dorking but every 20 mins Leatherhead to Kingston. Evenings and Sunday's every 30 mins Leatherhead - Kingston hourly to Dorking.
K2 To every 8 mins Mon-Sat , 10 mins evenings (15 late evenings) , 12 mins Sunday shopping hours.
K4 Sunday service every 30 mins , hourly evenings
H9/10 Every 8-9 mins MonSat , 12 mins Evenings and Sunday's
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