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Post by N230UD on Sept 17, 2019 21:56:28 GMT
Bear in mind you called me a "sore loser". I think it's gone to the point where we should just agree to disagree. I suggested that you were beginning to sound like one which isn't quite the same thing and you described Boris Johnson as a serial liar. Yes if Brexit can't be discussed in a civilized way it probably is best to do that. Good |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 18, 2019 10:11:39 GMT
The country is prepared, its just that remoaners are saying we are not as an excuse to delay or stop brexit. Remoaners have no respect for the referendum, they are just trying every attempt to bend the rules, complete sour grapes. lol at Boris a serial liar. So is Blair and Corbyn.
Please explain how this country is prepared. I'm very intrigued. Most remainers do respect the refurendum, but most people do not want No Deal. And of course, Brexiteers have not been bending the rules at all...... So, you're admitting Boris is a serial liar then, by saying 'so is....' The government have announced we are prepared. Remoaners are never prepared  |
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Post by N230UD on Sept 18, 2019 16:04:07 GMT
Please explain how this country is prepared. I'm very intrigued. Most remainers do respect the refurendum, but most people do not want No Deal. And of course, Brexiteers have not been bending the rules at all...... So, you're admitting Boris is a serial liar then, by saying 'so is....' The government have announced we are prepared. Remoaners are never prepared Just because they have announced they are prepared doesn't mean they are prepared. What have you read that suggests they are prepared? "Remoaners" don't have to prepare for anything, as their option would be just to carry on with staying in the EU, thus avoiding all this complicated stuff that has followed the refurendum. And you haven't replied to my comment about Boris, so I presume you do believe he is a liar. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2019 16:17:19 GMT
The government have announced we are prepared. Remoaners are never prepared Just because they have announced they are prepared doesn't mean they are prepared. What have you read that suggests they are prepared? "Remoaners" don't have to prepare for anything, as their option would be just to carry on with staying in the EU, thus avoiding all this complicated stuff that has followed the refurendum. And you haven't replied to my comment about Boris, so I presume you do believe he is a liar. I thought you didn't want to continue this discussion? Well seeing as you have can you explain how the UK is not prepared for Brexit and what they need to do in order to be prepared? Only this sounds like just another attempt to delay things further. |
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Post by SILENCED on Sept 18, 2019 16:18:44 GMT
Please explain how this country is prepared. I'm very intrigued. Most remainers do respect the refurendum, but most people do not want No Deal. And of course, Brexiteers have not been bending the rules at all...... So, you're admitting Boris is a serial liar then, by saying 'so is....' The government have announced we are prepared. Remoaners are never prepared That is a bit unfair, they are prepared to hand the EU billions of pounds each year. |
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Post by N230UD on Sept 18, 2019 17:36:53 GMT
Just because they have announced they are prepared doesn't mean they are prepared. What have you read that suggests they are prepared? "Remoaners" don't have to prepare for anything, as their option would be just to carry on with staying in the EU, thus avoiding all this complicated stuff that has followed the refurendum. And you haven't replied to my comment about Boris, so I presume you do believe he is a liar. I thought you didn't want to continue this discussion? Well seeing as you have can you explain how the UK is not prepared for Brexit and what they need to do in order to be prepared? Only this sounds like just another attempt to delay things further. I said I would agree to disagree with you, not to anyone else. The UK is not prepared for various reasons. No one has agreed what will happen to the Ireland border. No one is quite sure what will happen to trade with other EU countries if we leave. We still don't know if we will have a deal or a no deal - this is the most important point, as once we know if have a deal or not, businesses and organisations can try and prepare for the change. Also, the government has only just started the campaign to get people prepared for our exit, which is just over a month away! Now, can you please tell me how we ARE prepared??? |
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Post by N230UD on Sept 18, 2019 17:44:13 GMT
The government have announced we are prepared. Remoaners are never prepared That is a bit unfair, they are prepared to hand the EU billions of pounds each year. We don't just 'hand it to them'. We get a lot back in regional development funds, especially in more deprived areas such as Cornwall, Wales, the North East etc. When I look around Kent, so many of the infrastructure investment has been fully or partially funded by the EU. The EU is far from perfect though. In fact, many "remoaners" think the EU is far too conservative and bullying, and have various other concerns with it. Such as myself. But if we stayed in the EU, we have more chance to influence things. Better to be in the tent, rather than out, as the saying goes. So please don't paint remoaners with the same brush (like some remainers do with leavers, which I have made the mistake of doing) |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2019 18:18:45 GMT
I thought you didn't want to continue this discussion? Well seeing as you have can you explain how the UK is not prepared for Brexit and what they need to do in order to be prepared? Only this sounds like just another attempt to delay things further. I said I would agree to disagree with you, not to anyone else. The UK is not prepared for various reasons. No one has agreed what will happen to the Ireland border. No one is quite sure what will happen to trade with other EU countries if we leave. We still don't know if we will have a deal or a no deal - this is the most important point, as once we know if have a deal or not, businesses and organisations can try and prepare for the change. Also, the government has only just started the campaign to get people prepared for our exit, which is just over a month away! Now, can you please tell me how we ARE prepared??? Like I thought, just another delaying tactic. We've had over three years to prepare. |
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Post by N230UD on Sept 18, 2019 19:11:07 GMT
I said I would agree to disagree with you, not to anyone else. The UK is not prepared for various reasons. No one has agreed what will happen to the Ireland border. No one is quite sure what will happen to trade with other EU countries if we leave. We still don't know if we will have a deal or a no deal - this is the most important point, as once we know if have a deal or not, businesses and organisations can try and prepare for the change. Also, the government has only just started the campaign to get people prepared for our exit, which is just over a month away! Now, can you please tell me how we ARE prepared??? Like I thought, just another delaying tactic. We've had over three years to prepare. It's not a tactic. Surely it would make sense to properly prepare for it, resulting in a potentially successful Brexit?? If it ends up as a disaster due to not being thought through properly, "Remoaners" will be proven right. Yes, we have had over 3 years to prepare, and we should have successfully prepared for it by now. But it has become more complicated than expected, and both the country and Leave campaign has wasted that 3 years Yet again, can you PLEASE tell me how you think we are prepared??? |
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Post by SILENCED on Sept 18, 2019 19:22:41 GMT
That is a bit unfair, they are prepared to hand the EU billions of pounds each year. We don't just 'hand it to them'. We get a lot back in regional development funds, especially in more deprived areas such as Cornwall, Wales, the North East etc. When I look around Kent, so many of the infrastructure investment has been fully or partially funded by the EU. The EU is far from perfect though. In fact, many "remoaners" think the EU is far too conservative and bullying, and have various other concerns with it. Such as myself. But if we stayed in the EU, we have more chance to influence things. Better to be in the tent, rather than out, as the saying goes. So please don't paint remoaners with the same brush (like some remainers do with leavers, which I have made the mistake of doing) I was talking about the net figure |
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Post by busman on Sept 18, 2019 19:23:39 GMT
We’re as prepared as we will ever be. It’s impossible to be water tight as Brexit is completely unchartered territory.
Whilst Johnson is a proven serial liar and opportunist, I have a sneaky suspicion that the court will find him not guilty of “lying to the queen” due to lack of evidence and also the precedent it sets for courts getting involved in politics. A guilty verdict without clear undeniable evidence risks politicising both judiciary and monarchy.
How Johnson gets around the legal block to no deal isn’t clear. I’m still a staunch Remainer and will happily vote to revoke Article 50, but I have to say every time I hear Verhofstadt or Juncker speak it makes me half hope we leave with no deal and set up a tax and free trade haven on their doorstep.
In other news apparently Liz Truss confirmed earlier that in trade talks with Australia free movement of people will be considered as part of an agreement. I wonder how Brexiteers would feel about that.
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Post by ServerKing on Sept 18, 2019 21:47:38 GMT
Like I thought, just another delaying tactic. We've had over three years to prepare. It's not a tactic. Surely it would make sense to properly prepare for it, resulting in a potentially successful Brexit?? If it ends up as a disaster due to not being thought through properly, "Remoaners" will be proven right. Yes, we have had over 3 years to prepare, and we should have successfully prepared for it by now. But it has become more complicated than expected, and both the country and Leave campaign has wasted that 3 years Yet again, can you PLEASE tell me how you think we are prepared??? Lol we're as prepared as a kid who knows he has his GCSE Exams the following morning, but chooses to play Fortnite that evening and most of the night  All Boris knows is BS, it's what he gave us as Mayor. Anything he doesn't want to understand or if the question insults him, he will clam up or tell the person where to go. He is a child  Macron says now Boris has 12 days to get his sh*t together regarding the Northern Ireland Backstop or be thrown out of the EU THIS MONTH with no deal. Yes, Macron has his own troubles in France and taking Boris to task is good deflection but it's time BoJo had someone stand up to him. Not impressed with Johnson at all since he got into power. I hope the courts do punish him for misleading the Queen regarding shutting down Parliament. The waffly public schoolboy routine is getting tiring now. He never had a clue, but as the Tories have been hijacked by thick xenophobic chavs wanting to leave and start the British Empire again and return to the good old days, there was no way they would have selected anyone else. Interesting times. Boris having to telephone Veradker, Macron and Juncker from the pay phone in prison while he tries to sort out Brexit will be very embarrassing |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 18, 2019 22:18:38 GMT
It's not a tactic. Surely it would make sense to properly prepare for it, resulting in a potentially successful Brexit?? If it ends up as a disaster due to not being thought through properly, "Remoaners" will be proven right. Yes, we have had over 3 years to prepare, and we should have successfully prepared for it by now. But it has become more complicated than expected, and both the country and Leave campaign has wasted that 3 years Yet again, can you PLEASE tell me how you think we are prepared??? Lol we're as prepared as a kid who knows he has his GCSE Exams the following morning, but chooses to play Fortnite that evening and most of the night All Boris knows is BS, it's what he gave us as Mayor. Anything he doesn't want to understand or if the question insults him, he will clam up or tell the person where to go. He is a child Macron says now Boris has 12 days to get his sh*t together regarding the Northern Ireland Backstop or be thrown out of the EU THIS MONTH with no deal. Yes, Macron has his own troubles in France and taking Boris to task is good deflection but it's time BoJo had someone stand up to him. Not impressed with Johnson at all since he got into power. I hope the courts do punish him for misleading the Queen regarding shutting down Parliament. The waffly public schoolboy routine is getting tiring now. He never had a clue, but as the Tories have been hijacked by thick xenophobic chavs wanting to leave and start the British Empire again and return to the good old days, there was no way they would have selected anyone else. Interesting times. Boris having to telephone Veradker, Macron and Juncker from the pay phone in prison while he tries to sort out Brexit will be very embarrassing One of the main reasons to leave. After all its always Macaron and Merkel dictating the whole EU. We don't here nothing from other member states leaders. Misleading the queen??? total BS imo, like the Queen is some kind of school kid that doesn't know any better. Labour party has been hijacked by champagne socialist scum, wanting to return to the gold ole days of coal factories, 3 day working week, strikes etc and the country as thick as crap and laughing stock of the world. Even Arthur scargill has kept his mouth shut as he has taken abuse from peoples lives he played political football with. We would have buses like the Leyland Titan go longer and many other bus manufactures may not have folded then because of pathetic union policies that just allowed competitors from abroad to take their market share.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 18, 2019 22:22:51 GMT
The government have announced we are prepared. Remoaners are never prepared Just because they have announced they are prepared doesn't mean they are prepared. What have you read that suggests they are prepared? "Remoaners" don't have to prepare for anything, as their option would be just to carry on with staying in the EU, thus avoiding all this complicated stuff that has followed the refurendum. And you haven't replied to my comment about Boris, so I presume you do believe he is a liar. Define a liar. I guess you are a saint and have probably only told 1 lie in your life. Remoaners have to prepare for Brexit on 31st
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 18, 2019 22:30:33 GMT
That is a bit unfair, they are prepared to hand the EU billions of pounds each year. We don't just 'hand it to them'. We get a lot back in regional development funds, especially in more deprived areas such as Cornwall, Wales, the North East etc. When I look around Kent, so many of the infrastructure investment has been fully or partially funded by the EU. The EU is far from perfect though. In fact, many "remoaners" think the EU is far too conservative and bullying, and have various other concerns with it. Such as myself. But if we stayed in the EU, we have more chance to influence things. Better to be in the tent, rather than out, as the saying goes. So please don't paint remoaners with the same brush (like some remainers do with leavers, which I have made the mistake of doing) Yes the infrastructure in Kent money funder by the EU that came form this country in the first place anyway. Keep kidding yourself thinking you would influence them staying in the EU, its a case of been there done that. The whole concept of the EU is seriously flawed imo, its a poor excuse of trying to model the USA.
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All Boris knows is BS, it's what he gave us as Mayor. Anything he doesn't want to understand or if the question insults him, he will clam up or tell the person where to go. He is a child 