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Post by vjaska on Jun 18, 2021 22:37:24 GMT
Have to say, the refereeing in this tournament and VAR as well has been exceptional bar the Czech's penalty earlier on today. Don't if others agree but certainly food for thought for referees in this country who generally are very poor. Despite England's shoddy performance, they should have had the penalty today I think. Although bar that sole incident this was almost a Premier League match although refereed by a La Liga referee and you can see the sheer improvement. I'm not an Arsenal fan but I remember reading online somewhere that Craig Pawson's decisions alone is what resulted in the below par placing on the table this season too. I mean, I'm actually a big supporter of VAR overall but it has certainly cost us (Arsenal) over the last two seasons and the problem for me isn't the technology which works but the people in the VAR control room who certainly don't work well at all. Craig Pawson is certainly one of the worse ones I will say that. No comment on the England match - I'm staying away from that discussion in case it causes upset which isn't my intention one bit  |
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Post by greenboy on Jun 19, 2021 8:04:28 GMT
Not a great game by any means, a draw was a fair result in fact Scotland probably shaded it. It might have been different if John Stones hadn't hit the post when it looked easier to score...... anyway England almost certainly through to the knockout stages whilst nothing less than a win over Croatia will do for Scotland.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jun 20, 2021 10:55:24 GMT
Well done Scotland. They came for 0-0 and succeeded in frustrating the hell out of England. There was simply no creativity in the England team which is utterly bizarre given the abilities of Mount, Foden, Sterling and Grealish. They had no idea how to unlock a well drilled, disciplined Scottish team. Tuesday’s going to be interesting.... Please, why would they just want to draw which could then minimise their chances. If anything Scotland needed the win more than anything else. If they do not win their next match they are likely to be out of the competition. |
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Post by Busboy105 on Jun 20, 2021 12:05:53 GMT
Well done Scotland. They came for 0-0 and succeeded in frustrating the hell out of England. There was simply no creativity in the England team which is utterly bizarre given the abilities of Mount, Foden, Sterling and Grealish. They had no idea how to unlock a well drilled, disciplined Scottish team. Tuesday’s going to be interesting.... Please, why would they just want to draw which could then minimise their chances. If anything Scotland needed the win more than anything else. If they do not win their next match they are likely to be out of the competition. Getting a draw against a very good England team is just as good as a win. And England aren’t exactly safe either. If they lose against Czech Republic and either Scotland or Croatia win, England are out unless if they become one of the best 3rd place teams. |
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Post by Paul on Jun 20, 2021 16:47:33 GMT
Well done Scotland. They came for 0-0 and succeeded in frustrating the hell out of England. There was simply no creativity in the England team which is utterly bizarre given the abilities of Mount, Foden, Sterling and Grealish. They had no idea how to unlock a well drilled, disciplined Scottish team. Tuesday’s going to be interesting.... Please, why would they just want to draw which could then minimise their chances. If anything Scotland needed the win more than anything else. If they do not win their next match they are likely to be out of the competition. Did you see whenever England had the ball that there was two solid walls of blue in front of them? Scotland have done similar when they’ve played so called ‘bigger’ teams before and had some success doing it. They set up to not lose rather than win and then bank on getting a result elsewhere. In the current format of the European Championships playing for a draw isn’t a terrible idea. Portugal won the competition last time out and they qualified from their group with three draws Scotland absolutely needed at least a point against England since defeat would almost certainly have sent them home so playing to ensure they didn’t lose made sense |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jun 22, 2021 21:47:34 GMT
Scotland seem to be going home now, but I think England certainly did impress today. Finally including Saka and Grealish was a good decision by Southgate and Saka certainly made his mark on the game, being vital to the goal. He's made a case to be in the starting line up of every England game going forward.
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Post by vjaska on Jun 22, 2021 22:44:48 GMT
Scotland seem to be going home now, but I think England certainly did impress today. Finally including Saka and Grealish was a good decision by Southgate and Saka certainly made his mark on the game, being vital to the goal. He's made a case to be in the starting line up of every England game going forward. Happy for Saka being an Arsenal fan myself, was worried he wouldn't play a single minute. Surely, he has shown that he is England's best young talent going forward and not the overrated Foden? |
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Post by Paul on Jun 23, 2021 4:43:45 GMT
Job done. First objective was qualify from the group - top if possible to stay at Wembley for the R16 game. The injection of life from Grealish and Saka was very welcome - amazing what can happen when you actually run at defenders! Things went a bit stale in the second half though - we need to be maintaining pressure on teams. The R16 game is going to be tough but you have to play the big teams at some point. I don’t think we have to fear anyone but Southgate needs to get things spot on. I hope he has it in him. COME ON ENGLAND!! 🦁🦁🦁 It’s coming home!!
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jun 23, 2021 9:29:07 GMT
Job done. First objective was qualify from the group - top if possible to stay at Wembley for the R16 game. The injection of life from Grealish and Saka was very welcome - amazing what can happen when you actually run at defenders! Things went a bit stale in the second half though - we need to be maintaining pressure on teams. The R16 game is going to be tough but you have to play the big teams at some point. I don’t think we have to fear anyone but Southgate needs to get things spot on. I hope he has it in him. COME ON ENGLAND!! 🦁🦁🦁 It’s coming home!! I don't think qualifying at the top was the wisest solution, we'll almost certainly be going up against France or Portugal now and whether that's at Wembley or not they're the top two teams that we should have avoided facing this early on. It would be nice to win against them but I don't see it happening sadly, even the best England team played so far which was yesterday could only muster a single goal against the Czechs. Southgate really needs to step up with his defensive tactics now, depending on how everything goes the front lines that will face the defence are either going to be compromised of Griezmann, Mbappe, Benzema and Dembele or Ronaldo, Bernardo Silva, Jota and Fernandes. Southgate can do the usual and send the entire team back there but that's not how you win a match. If usual tactics are played you're looking at Kane being parked up at the front and the wingers being perched just behind the halfway line to charge it up to him, I think in this regard Portugal may be slightly easier to get past than France. I'm assuming Portugal will has Dias and Sanches hanging around in that area and France will have Pogba and Kante, but the midfield won't be particularly easy to get through. Then obviously while both teams have slightly weaker defences, we need to remember if the usual English tactics are played that Kane may end up being the only one up there, who should be easy for defenders like Kimpembe, Varane and Pepe to intercept. Would love for England to win against whoever, will certainly be supporting them. But as Southgate warned us all the other day, our expectations need to be realistic. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jun 23, 2021 9:30:29 GMT
Please, why would they just want to draw which could then minimise their chances. If anything Scotland needed the win more than anything else. If they do not win their next match they are likely to be out of the competition. Did you see whenever England had the ball that there was two solid walls of blue in front of them? Scotland have done similar when they’ve played so called ‘bigger’ teams before and had some success doing it. They set up to not lose rather than win and then bank on getting a result elsewhere. In the current format of the European Championships playing for a draw isn’t a terrible idea. Portugal won the competition last time out and they qualified from their group with three draws Scotland absolutely needed at least a point against England since defeat would almost certainly have sent them home so playing to ensure they didn’t lose made sense I did not see Scotland going to knockouts. They have always been over-rated imo. |
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Post by greenboy on Jun 23, 2021 10:13:14 GMT
Did you see whenever England had the ball that there was two solid walls of blue in front of them? Scotland have done similar when they’ve played so called ‘bigger’ teams before and had some success doing it. They set up to not lose rather than win and then bank on getting a result elsewhere. In the current format of the European Championships playing for a draw isn’t a terrible idea. Portugal won the competition last time out and they qualified from their group with three draws Scotland absolutely needed at least a point against England since defeat would almost certainly have sent them home so playing to ensure they didn’t lose made sense I did not see Scotland going to knockouts. They have always been over-rated imo. The Jocks are celebrating the 'we drew 0-0 with England trophy' 🤣🤣. Daunting prospect for England in the next round, unless it's Hungary which is most unlikely, but in a one off game anything can happen. |
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Post by vjaska on Jun 23, 2021 12:01:14 GMT
Did you see whenever England had the ball that there was two solid walls of blue in front of them? Scotland have done similar when they’ve played so called ‘bigger’ teams before and had some success doing it. They set up to not lose rather than win and then bank on getting a result elsewhere. In the current format of the European Championships playing for a draw isn’t a terrible idea. Portugal won the competition last time out and they qualified from their group with three draws Scotland absolutely needed at least a point against England since defeat would almost certainly have sent them home so playing to ensure they didn’t lose made sense I did not see Scotland going to knockouts. They have always been over-rated imo. Don’t understand how they’ve always been overrated? They’ve been rated just right - a decent team with lacks a clinical striker. People need to remember they have a much smaller talent pool to pick from than England so the fact they managed to get a decent starting 11 and one or two good subs shows they’re making progress. Qualifying for the tournament was the first step and they need to make this a habit rather than go another 20 odd years and the second is to blood some young guns which they have a few talents coming through alongside the likes of Gilmour. |
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Post by VMH2537 on Jun 23, 2021 21:13:53 GMT
Would you believe it, Germany coming on our back door to fight us
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Post by vjaska on Jun 23, 2021 22:09:33 GMT
So sadly, my team went home today but at least they went down fighting but it wasn’t enough. Hopefully Lewandowski can make it to one more tournament as we’d be lost without it
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Post by MKAY315 on Jun 23, 2021 22:15:56 GMT
I'm happy that all my top teams are still in the competition but I know at least one of them is going to get eliminated on the round of 16 and it sucks that they're all on the same side of the paths, whereas England, Germany and Netherlands are on the other side of the paths.
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