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Post by gloriouswater on Jan 6, 2018 0:22:00 GMT
My very, very optimistic predictions for the year ahead  Cuts cuts cuts - C10 to go every 15min after everyone abandons it due to how blooming overtimed it is all day long  DLR frequencies to be cut back, the official reason being because there's not enough drivers Some suburban route to be converted to LT after "service improvements" leave a few Central London LTs spare. Knowing my luck it'll be one of my locals that have somehow avoided the plague so far. Almost all originally Euro3 buses to be withdrawn. Perhaps the odd Trident and WVL will be left floating around. I'm expecting mass E400 withdrawals to start as well. 8440 to still be going  MB to fix some of the more knackered Omnitowns in the month before withdrawal, to boost their resale value. One of them will regain kickdown and someone will be lucky enough to get a good clip of one getting kicked on its 3rd-last day in service. Good luck(!) if anyone at MB knows of one that still has it, do tell us pretty pleaseNobody to order Citaros but we'll get all hyped up over them anyway before it turns out to just be a rumour (this may have happened already  ) In the far future, people will start getting nostalgic over Streetlites and Euro5 Voith E400s when they realise there is nothing interesting left in service any more except stop start MMCs that are constantly dying - the 2010s were a better time  After the last LT is withdrawn due to the next mayor not liking them, people will call for them to be brought back just like bendy buses. Some of these are possibly not meant to be taken at face value. Possibly. |
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Post by lwldriver on Jan 6, 2018 5:41:13 GMT
My very, very optimistic predictions for the year ahead Cuts cuts cuts - C10 to go every 15min after everyone abandons it due to how blooming overtimed it is all day long DLR frequencies to be cut back, the official reason being because there's not enough drivers Some suburban route to be converted to LT after "service improvements" leave a few Central London LTs spare. Knowing my luck it'll be one of my locals that have somehow avoided the plague so far. Almost all originally Euro3 buses to be withdrawn. Perhaps the odd Trident and WVL will be left floating around. I'm expecting mass E400 withdrawals to start as well. 8440 to still be going MB to fix some of the more knackered Omnitowns in the month before withdrawal, to boost their resale value. One of them will regain kickdown and someone will be lucky enough to get a good clip of one getting kicked on its 3rd-last day in service. Good luck(!) if anyone at MB knows of one that still has it, do tell us pretty pleaseNobody to order Citaros but we'll get all hyped up over them anyway before it turns out to just be a rumour (this may have happened already ) In the far future, people will start getting nostalgic over Streetlites and Euro5 Voith E400s when they realise there is nothing interesting left in service any more except stop start MMCs that are constantly dying - the 2010s were a better time After the last LT is withdrawn due to the next mayor not liking them, people will call for them to be brought back just like bendy buses. Some of these are possibly not meant to be taken at face value. Possibly. What exactly are you meaning by the C10 being overtimed? |
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Post by lwldriver on Jan 6, 2018 5:45:36 GMT
P13 will stop serving West Dulwich Stn and go via Alleyn Park,Park Hall Road & Croxted Road as a "Temporary" *Cough Cough* Diversion Not a bad idea as those routes are unserved by buses (obviously the 3 & N3 covers that section of Croxted Road). I certainly wouldn’t mind the slightly longer drive. |
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Post by gloriouswater on Jan 6, 2018 14:07:08 GMT
My very, very optimistic predictions for the year ahead Cuts cuts cuts - C10 to go every 15min after everyone abandons it due to how blooming overtimed it is all day long DLR frequencies to be cut back, the official reason being because there's not enough drivers Some suburban route to be converted to LT after "service improvements" leave a few Central London LTs spare. Knowing my luck it'll be one of my locals that have somehow avoided the plague so far. Almost all originally Euro3 buses to be withdrawn. Perhaps the odd Trident and WVL will be left floating around. I'm expecting mass E400 withdrawals to start as well. 8440 to still be going MB to fix some of the more knackered Omnitowns in the month before withdrawal, to boost their resale value. One of them will regain kickdown and someone will be lucky enough to get a good clip of one getting kicked on its 3rd-last day in service. Good luck(!) if anyone at MB knows of one that still has it, do tell us pretty pleaseNobody to order Citaros but we'll get all hyped up over them anyway before it turns out to just be a rumour (this may have happened already ) In the far future, people will start getting nostalgic over Streetlites and Euro5 Voith E400s when they realise there is nothing interesting left in service any more except stop start MMCs that are constantly dying - the 2010s were a better time After the last LT is withdrawn due to the next mayor not liking them, people will call for them to be brought back just like bendy buses. Some of these are possibly not meant to be taken at face value. Possibly. What exactly are you meaning by the C10 being overtimed? Just in my experience, over the past year journeys on the route have become really slow. Has the route gained a lot of extra running time? Because it seems that way - I never used to get buses crawling so slow they took an hour e2e but now it happens almost every time I use it. |
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Post by galwhv69 on Jan 6, 2018 14:50:43 GMT
P13 will stop serving West Dulwich Stn and go via Alleyn Park,Park Hall Road & Croxted Road as a "Temporary" *Cough Cough* Diversion Not a bad idea as those routes are unserved by buses (obviously the 3 & N3 covers that section of Croxted Road). I certainly wouldn’t mind the slightly longer drive. Tbh i only did that cos i can't be bothered to walk everyday |
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Post by ThinLizzy on Jan 6, 2018 19:59:14 GMT
My very, very optimistic predictions for the year ahead DLR frequencies to be cut back, the official reason being because there's not enough drivers shhh don't say that I'll be out of a job 😉 lol |
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Post by lwldriver on Jan 7, 2018 0:18:45 GMT
What exactly are you meaning by the C10 being overtimed? Just in my experience, over the past year journeys on the route have become really slow. Has the route gained a lot of extra running time? Because it seems that way - I never used to get buses crawling so slow they took an hour e2e but now it happens almost every time I use it. When the route first came to WL in April 2016, it was given very tight running times, coincide these with the usual rush hour delays on the route and we (I say we as although I’m a spare driver they put me on the C10 late rota for two weeks, that’s all I lasted before I told them to take me off as I couldn’t stand the route under them times and I don’t like one constant route) would often be waiting at the Coach Station to changeover for 30,45 and sometimes over 60 minutes until our bus arrived, reliability suffered badly with plenty of Pimlico Station, Elephant & Castle and Rotherhithe turns, also bear in mind back then Jamaica Road was still a car park most evenings. They soon after changed the running time giving us more time but still it wasn’t ideal. Upon changing of the changeover point to Inner London Crown Court which was something to do with roadworks in the Victoria area, the time was extended again, but now the time is quite adequate. Late evening times are ample too, very similar to the 188 late evening times where you could easily get to the other end 5-10 mins early with no trouble. The route is ample now and by simple nature of the route and it’s various outside obsticals, traffic and roadworks etc it can seem like it takes an age at peak times but outside of peaks is reasonably quick. Routes like the 45, 172 & 381 have poor late evening running times when you consider the vast 20mph sections that litter these routes, often why if you see a very late 45 or 172 in the evening in particular the chances are it’s me at the wheel, but I refuse to drive above the stated speed limits and management have agreed with me when spoken about these. Unfortunately councils implementing the 20mph sections in areas that really don’t need it are only going to slow down bus journey times and as a result tempt passengers into the likes of uBer. |
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Post by vjaska on Jan 7, 2018 1:15:20 GMT
Just in my experience, over the past year journeys on the route have become really slow. Has the route gained a lot of extra running time? Because it seems that way - I never used to get buses crawling so slow they took an hour e2e but now it happens almost every time I use it. When the route first came to WL in April 2016, it was given very tight running times, coincide these with the usual rush hour delays on the route and we (I say we as although I’m a spare driver they put me on the C10 late rota for two weeks, that’s all I lasted before I told them to take me off as I couldn’t stand the route under them times and I don’t like one constant route) would often be waiting at the Coach Station to changeover for 30,45 and sometimes over 60 minutes until our bus arrived, reliability suffered badly with plenty of Pimlico Station, Elephant & Castle and Rotherhithe turns, also bear in mind back then Jamaica Road was still a car park most evenings. They soon after changed the running time giving us more time but still it wasn’t ideal. Upon changing of the changeover point to Inner London Crown Court which was something to do with roadworks in the Victoria area, the time was extended again, but now the time is quite adequate. Late evening times are ample too, very similar to the 188 late evening times where you could easily get to the other end 5-10 mins early with no trouble. The route is ample now and by simple nature of the route and it’s various outside obsticals, traffic and roadworks etc it can seem like it takes an age at peak times but outside of peaks is reasonably quick. Routes like the 45, 172 & 381 have poor late evening running times when you consider the vast 20mph sections that litter these routes, often why if you see a very late 45 or 172 in the evening in particular the chances are it’s me at the wheel, but I refuse to drive above the stated speed limits and management have agreed with me when spoken about these. Unfortunately councils implementing the 20mph sections in areas that really don’t need it are only going to slow down bus journey times and as a result tempt passengers into the likes of uBer. Indeed, blame the nimbys living in my borough (Lambeth) as well as the neighbouring Southwark. Croydon had a much more sensible idea where they kept the main roads 30mph but reduced the side roads to 20mph. |
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Post by snowman on Jan 7, 2018 8:41:32 GMT
When the route first came to WL in April 2016, it was given very tight running times, coincide these with the usual rush hour delays on the route and we (I say we as although I’m a spare driver they put me on the C10 late rota for two weeks, that’s all I lasted before I told them to take me off as I couldn’t stand the route under them times and I don’t like one constant route) would often be waiting at the Coach Station to changeover for 30,45 and sometimes over 60 minutes until our bus arrived, reliability suffered badly with plenty of Pimlico Station, Elephant & Castle and Rotherhithe turns, also bear in mind back then Jamaica Road was still a car park most evenings. They soon after changed the running time giving us more time but still it wasn’t ideal. Upon changing of the changeover point to Inner London Crown Court which was something to do with roadworks in the Victoria area, the time was extended again, but now the time is quite adequate. Late evening times are ample too, very similar to the 188 late evening times where you could easily get to the other end 5-10 mins early with no trouble. The route is ample now and by simple nature of the route and it’s various outside obsticals, traffic and roadworks etc it can seem like it takes an age at peak times but outside of peaks is reasonably quick. Routes like the 45, 172 & 381 have poor late evening running times when you consider the vast 20mph sections that litter these routes, often why if you see a very late 45 or 172 in the evening in particular the chances are it’s me at the wheel, but I refuse to drive above the stated speed limits and management have agreed with me when spoken about these. Unfortunately councils implementing the 20mph sections in areas that really don’t need it are only going to slow down bus journey times and as a result tempt passengers into the likes of uBer. Indeed, blame the nimbys living in my borough (Lambeth) as well as the neighbouring Southwark. Croydon had a much more sensible idea where they kept the main roads 30mph but reduced the side roads to 20mph. Luckily for me Kingston also restricted 20mph to side roads. A latest report show over use of 20mph zones leads to more accidents as people become careless www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/17/20mph-limit-dangerous-costly-reverse-council-admits/ |
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Post by mondraker275 on Jan 7, 2018 12:42:52 GMT
I can just see safety campaigners and councils using the year 2020, to promote 20 mph speed limits everywhere. 'Lets go 20, in 2020'.
In fact I can see people driving in their cars at 20mph, to go and watch the 20/20 cricket without their binoculars as they all have 20/20 vision because of the laser treatment 2020 campaign.
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Post by paulsw2 on Jan 7, 2018 13:48:19 GMT
I can just see safety campaigners and councils using the year 2020, to promote 20 mph speed limits everywhere. 'Lets go 20, in 2020'. In fact I can see people driving in their cars at 20mph, to go and watch the 20/20 cricket without their binoculars as they all have 20/20 vision because of the laser treatment 2020 campaign. 20 out of 20 for this post |
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Post by gloriouswater on Jan 7, 2018 16:35:39 GMT
Just in my experience, over the past year journeys on the route have become really slow. Has the route gained a lot of extra running time? Because it seems that way - I never used to get buses crawling so slow they took an hour e2e but now it happens almost every time I use it. When the route first came to WL in April 2016, it was given very tight running times, coincide these with the usual rush hour delays on the route and we (I say we as although I’m a spare driver they put me on the C10 late rota for two weeks, that’s all I lasted before I told them to take me off as I couldn’t stand the route under them times and I don’t like one constant route) would often be waiting at the Coach Station to changeover for 30,45 and sometimes over 60 minutes until our bus arrived, reliability suffered badly with plenty of Pimlico Station, Elephant & Castle and Rotherhithe turns, also bear in mind back then Jamaica Road was still a car park most evenings. They soon after changed the running time giving us more time but still it wasn’t ideal. Upon changing of the changeover point to Inner London Crown Court which was something to do with roadworks in the Victoria area, the time was extended again, but now the time is quite adequate. Late evening times are ample too, very similar to the 188 late evening times where you could easily get to the other end 5-10 mins early with no trouble. The route is ample now and by simple nature of the route and it’s various outside obsticals, traffic and roadworks etc it can seem like it takes an age at peak times but outside of peaks is reasonably quick. Routes like the 45, 172 & 381 have poor late evening running times when you consider the vast 20mph sections that litter these routes, often why if you see a very late 45 or 172 in the evening in particular the chances are it’s me at the wheel, but I refuse to drive above the stated speed limits and management have agreed with me when spoken about these. Unfortunately councils implementing the 20mph sections in areas that really don’t need it are only going to slow down bus journey times and as a result tempt passengers into the likes of uBer. All makes sense to me. Jamaica Road can get very bad, worst I've had is a 188 that took 35 minutes to cross it (I was too tired to walk or I'd have easily been home in that time) It must be my luck, mostly when I use the C10 it's outside the peaks (frequently round 11ish pm after getting off my coach, I don't trust it to get me to the coach station on time anymore) and there's very little traffic but I still get those journeys utterly crawling along. Standard practice for me now is abandon the bus at E&C and catch a 1 or 188 so I don't spend an hour getting home. When QB had the route I remember my journeys being about 40-45min e2e, of course I mostly used the route at quiet times and still do. Well said about the 20mph limits. Some of my relatives have chosen to walk where they'd have taken a short hop journey on a bus before because they find it too infuriating to spend 10 minutes crawling along to cover 3 stops. |
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Post by lwldriver on Jan 7, 2018 20:06:42 GMT
When the route first came to WL in April 2016, it was given very tight running times, coincide these with the usual rush hour delays on the route and we (I say we as although I’m a spare driver they put me on the C10 late rota for two weeks, that’s all I lasted before I told them to take me off as I couldn’t stand the route under them times and I don’t like one constant route) would often be waiting at the Coach Station to changeover for 30,45 and sometimes over 60 minutes until our bus arrived, reliability suffered badly with plenty of Pimlico Station, Elephant & Castle and Rotherhithe turns, also bear in mind back then Jamaica Road was still a car park most evenings. They soon after changed the running time giving us more time but still it wasn’t ideal. Upon changing of the changeover point to Inner London Crown Court which was something to do with roadworks in the Victoria area, the time was extended again, but now the time is quite adequate. Late evening times are ample too, very similar to the 188 late evening times where you could easily get to the other end 5-10 mins early with no trouble. The route is ample now and by simple nature of the route and it’s various outside obsticals, traffic and roadworks etc it can seem like it takes an age at peak times but outside of peaks is reasonably quick. Routes like the 45, 172 & 381 have poor late evening running times when you consider the vast 20mph sections that litter these routes, often why if you see a very late 45 or 172 in the evening in particular the chances are it’s me at the wheel, but I refuse to drive above the stated speed limits and management have agreed with me when spoken about these. Unfortunately councils implementing the 20mph sections in areas that really don’t need it are only going to slow down bus journey times and as a result tempt passengers into the likes of uBer. All makes sense to me. Jamaica Road can get very bad, worst I've had is a 188 that took 35 minutes to cross it (I was too tired to walk or I'd have easily been home in that time) It must be my luck, mostly when I use the C10 it's outside the peaks (frequently round 11ish pm after getting off my coach, I don't trust it to get me to the coach station on time anymore) and there's very little traffic but I still get those journeys utterly crawling along. Standard practice for me now is abandon the bus at E&C and catch a 1 or 188 so I don't spend an hour getting home. When QB had the route I remember my journeys being about 40-45min e2e, of course I mostly used the route at quiet times and still do. Well said about the 20mph limits. Some of my relatives have chosen to walk where they'd have taken a short hop journey on a bus before because they find it too infuriating to spend 10 minutes crawling along to cover 3 stops. Worst I’ve had as a driver is on the C10, 57 minutes along the bus lane section from Abbey Street to St James’s Road 😂 |
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Post by Alex on Jan 8, 2018 0:32:20 GMT
Worst I’ve had as a driver is on the C10, 57 minutes along the bus lane section from Abbey Street to St James’s Road 😂 Though I know the areas the C10 goes through, had to measure that one on Google Maps just to see if it was as bad as I thought.....0.2 miles  That really is going some! |
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Post by lwldriver on Jan 8, 2018 1:18:41 GMT
Worst I’ve had as a driver is on the C10, 57 minutes along the bus lane section from Abbey Street to St James’s Road 😂 Though I know the areas the C10 goes through, had to measure that one on Google Maps just to see if it was as bad as I thought.....0.2 miles That really is going some! It’s stupid, have to say my experiences of late whilst driving the 188 (prior to November of course), 381 & C10 have been ok through there, the introduction of the box junctions has helped a bit aswell as the second entrance of the tunnel being done has to, even though everyone still queues in the N/S one 😂 |
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That really is going some!