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Post by overgroundcommuter on Jan 6, 2015 17:08:20 GMT
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Dec 28, 2014 19:00:05 GMT
MEC's are also operating on the Southern/London Overground replacements between New Cross Gate and Crystal Palace.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Dec 21, 2014 23:26:29 GMT
Yes, it'd be another single decker route. The suggestion I made gives two advantages. Connecting the hospitals alongside connecting Denmark Hill and Peckham Rye stations which has no direct bus alternative to the rail services, along with the issue that passengers in North Dulwich don't have a direct bus service to the local Sainsbury's supermarket which Route 42 should have been given the extension to. The P12 personally is too long a route since the extension to Surrey Quays and helps the P13 which would benefit without the New Cross section. Changing the P12 to New Cross maintains the connection to Peckham Rye station which has been proven that some passengers would rather wait 15 mins for a direct service than walk to Peckham High Street for the numerous buses which serve NX. Trouble with the P13 is that it has become a victim of its' own success. It was only originally extended to keep quiet a small number of residents who had used the withdrawn 115 between Forest Hill and Streatham Hill, but I suspect had TfL (or LRT as was) realised how popular it would become then a standalone route would have been introduced. Moz The problem with the 115 extension to Forest Hill was that it wasn't particularly useful for passengers in West Dulwich. The P13 is the only route which connects East and West Dulwich without having to change for the 37 in Herne Hill. Those who wanted to travel towards Forest Hill already had the P4 from the Village or Dulwich Common. I was on the P13 this afternoon (Sunday) between Peckham Bus Station and the Grove Tavern stop, the bus got busier from East Dulwich, 7 passengers got on at Goose Green alone and was still heaving as the bus headed towards West Dulwich. |
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Dec 20, 2014 2:46:13 GMT
I'm not surprised that the report mentions about the 197's recent reliability issues, plus 108 responses of the route not being frequent enough.
If the good people of Woodside Green think this is an issue, I wonder what people especially on the Peckham to Forest Hill section consider it as much of an issue, considering the 12 running along part of the route?
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Dec 19, 2014 0:08:00 GMT
I agree that TfL should really have an app for this. I rely on a commercial app for Countdown as it's easier to use than the TfL site. TfL have said they are not in the "app business" and will not produce them. Their policy is to release open data for others to develop whatever they want. Personally I think that's a big disadvantage. We're moving from web browsing to using apps with mobile net usage. TfL's websites are great on a desktop or tablet, yet the mobile site continues to be it's weak point. I'm glad to hear that Oyster Online will finally move over to the new web software, yet if I could use official TfL apps instead of a commercial app with advertising, I would. |
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Dec 18, 2014 13:20:22 GMT
I agree that TfL should really have an app for this. I rely on a commercial app for Countdown as it's easier to use than the TfL site.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Dec 17, 2014 23:16:51 GMT
Some ideas for the local Peckham hoppa routes: P12: Cut between Surrey Quays and Queens Road Peckham station, diverted to New Cross Sainsburys. P13: Cut between Peckham Bus Station and New Cross Sainsburys to improve reliability, replaced by the P12. A new route from East Dulwich Sainsburys using the empty stand to Surrey Quays following the P13 to Peckham, then the P12 to Surrey Quays. This route could also run via Denmark Hill and North Dulwich station. Surely your proposal for the new route would constrain the vehicle size to small buses by virtue of going round the back roads at Peckham? Like vjaska I've only used the P12 once but it was horrendously overloaded and we left people behind and that was a Sunday over the Surrey Quays to Peckham section. Using small buses there would be a disaster without a big frequency increase and then you run in to problems about buses meeting on narrow, crowded roads and unable to pass. Looking at the stats the P12 has put on a lot of patronage since it was extended to Surrey Quays. I'd argue the real need is to add capacity so I'd do a new route from Camberwell Green via the 484 then 37 into Peckham then P12 to Surrey Quays and round the C10 route via Rotherhithe to terminate at Canada Water. This gives extra capacity plus links to the hospitals at Denmark Hill and a new through service from Camberwell to Peckham Rye and Peckham Town centre. It could be tweaked in the Surrey Canal Road area when / if the station and new housing is built. Yes, it'd be another single decker route. The suggestion I made gives two advantages. Connecting the hospitals alongside connecting Denmark Hill and Peckham Rye stations which has no direct bus alternative to the rail services, along with the issue that passengers in North Dulwich don't have a direct bus service to the local Sainsbury's supermarket which Route 42 should have been given the extension to. The P12 personally is too long a route since the extension to Surrey Quays and helps the P13 which would benefit without the New Cross section. Changing the P12 to New Cross maintains the connection to Peckham Rye station which has been proven that some passengers would rather wait 15 mins for a direct service than walk to Peckham High Street for the numerous buses which serve NX. |
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Dec 17, 2014 18:22:12 GMT
Some ideas for the local Peckham hoppa routes:
P12: Cut between Surrey Quays and Queens Road Peckham station, diverted to New Cross Sainsburys.
P13: Cut between Peckham Bus Station and New Cross Sainsburys to improve reliability, replaced by the P12.
A new route from East Dulwich Sainsburys using the empty stand to Surrey Quays following the P13 to Peckham, then the P12 to Surrey Quays. This route could also run via Denmark Hill and North Dulwich station.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Dec 16, 2014 18:29:07 GMT
I was about to say that free travel on TfL services is still going ahead as posters were on the Piccadilly line this weekend. No mention if TfL will be subsidising some NR routes again this year.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Dec 16, 2014 18:26:27 GMT
Option A. I've seen the benefits this year to the P13 and 185 due to the increased frequency.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Dec 8, 2014 21:04:16 GMT
Good things: 136 being extended to the Elephant relieving the 343, increased frequency for the P13 and 185. The P13 is at long last a turn up and go service and outside the peaks, less of a cattle truck experience. 197 getting some of the DW's from the 38.
Bad things: Two year extension for the 176 with those noisy VLA's. The archaic 20 minute service on the 197 on Sundays with no plans to change the PVR.
Service Changes to happen in 2015: 176 increase to every 7 mins in the peaks. NBfL on Route 436 despite the revenue losses during the artics era. 227 style buses on the P4.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Dec 8, 2014 18:44:38 GMT
197 (DW) to Forest Hill
London Overground to Canada Water
Jubilee line to Waterloo
Northern line to Charing Cross
29 to Tottenham Court Road (First time I've been able to go direct along Charing Cross Road across Oxford Street)
10 to Oxford Street/John Lewis
13 to Charing Cross Station
Southeastern to London Bridge
Southern to Forest Hill
185 (WHV1) to home.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Dec 4, 2014 17:44:20 GMT
Just got off a 197 towards Croydon. Two buses left Peckham Bus Station two mins apart. The bus I was on a T, picked up all the passengers from Peckham. Got as far as the Goodrich Road stop in Barry Road when the controller radioed in asking the driver to divert away from Cherry Orchard Road. The instructions were clear and consise that every single passenger heard it, yet the driver didn't understand and clearly doesn't know streets around Croydon. Pax at this point got angry as the empty DW overtook us and one passenger even offered to direct the driver round the streets. In the end the Controller told him to terminate at Lower Addiscombe Road. Was there an accident or something in Cherry Orchard Road? I can remember the 197 going via Lansdowne/Dingwall Rd pre OPO conversion in the 70s That's right. Routes that run along Cherry Orchard Road southbound towards East Croydon are on diversion currently. |
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Dec 4, 2014 14:57:44 GMT
Just got off a 197 towards Croydon.
Two buses left Peckham Bus Station two mins apart. The bus I was on a T, picked up all the passengers from Peckham. Got as far as the Goodrich Road stop in Barry Road when the controller radioed in asking the driver to divert away from Cherry Orchard Road. The instructions were clear and consise that every single passenger heard it, yet the driver didn't understand and clearly doesn't know streets around Croydon.
Pax at this point got angry as the empty DW overtook us and one passenger even offered to direct the driver round the streets. In the end the Controller told him to terminate at Lower Addiscombe Road.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Nov 18, 2014 15:27:31 GMT
I always thank the driver on the P13.
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