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Post by snoggle on Dec 12, 2013 21:11:14 GMT
The closure won't be until 2015 Since when? The paper from Wandsworth Council says the work is from June to Dec 2014 and has to be done by March 2015 at the very latest or else Wandsworth lose DfT funding. Has something changed?
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Post by Mokujin on Dec 12, 2013 21:15:28 GMT
Here is a solution. 14 Diverted to Hammersmith Broadway. 22 Diverted via Wandsworth Bridge Road, Wandsworth bridge, Wandsworth town, then via 270 to Putney Common 74 Curtailed at Putney Bridge Station 85 Curtailed at Putney Garage 93 Curtailed to Putney Garage 265 Extended to Wandsworth 270 Extended to Putney Common 220 Curtailed at Putney Bridge station 424 Curtailed at Putney Bridge station. Extended from Fulham to Hammersmith and then takes up 485 routing to Wandsworth 430 Diverted via Wandsworth Bridge and Fulham Broadway N22 diverted as per 22 N74 follows 430 diversion Routes 14 & 74 temporarily allocated to MW Too much hassle just make it simple, reduce Milage and cut off links as a bridge is being closed so things will cost more. 14, 22, 74 & (220) curtailed and terminate at Putney Bridge transferred to SW 39, 85, 93 curtailed and Stand in Putney Garage. 265 diverted to Putney Heath 270 to Putney Common Anyone who wants Putney Bridge can walk to East Putney and get the District Line with their existing ticket accepted. N22 & N74 diversion 333 to MW temp 87 AL & 170 to PL temp or 19 Part Allocation to NP temp and full N19 temp. 430 no replacement as it follows the 74, just the Roehampton Section covered instead extended to Wandsworth replacing the 220 for 6 months 424 run in two sections Putney Heath to Putney High Street using 1 bus AF Fulham Craven Cottage to Putney Bridge operated from SW all 424 tickets through to the District Line I doubt PL would have space for the 170. Looking at the garage on Google Maps, space could possibly be tight there. I don't think MW would have space for 333 either unless the 453 is transferred to NX temporarily. Sorry for the late quote-reply
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Post by Steve80 on Dec 13, 2013 6:06:40 GMT
The closure won't be until 2015 Since when? The paper from Wandsworth Council says the work is from June to Dec 2014 and has to be done by March 2015 at the very latest or else Wandsworth lose DfT funding. Has something changed? I saw the link that you posted which clearly states that the works must be completed before march 2015, but the evening standard say 2015. I guess the standard made a mistake but hasn't corrected it
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Post by snoggle on Dec 13, 2013 10:19:08 GMT
Since when? The paper from Wandsworth Council says the work is from June to Dec 2014 and has to be done by March 2015 at the very latest or else Wandsworth lose DfT funding. Has something changed? I saw the link that you posted which clearly states that the works must be completed before march 2015, but the evening standard say 2015. I guess the standard made a mistake but hasn't corrected it A quick google brings up the fact that Wandsworth Council have opted for a 6 month full closure but are consulting on this. Hammersmith and Fulham Council are complaining about the likely impact on their roads so are demanding a 11 month closure. I suspect the Standard have not bothered to properly research the background. It is perfectly clear if you read the council's paperwork that there are funding cut off dates and Wandsworth quite rightly don't want to lose that funding. The best way to do these major bits of works is the one that gets the work done fastest. Yes it will be a real problem but with a June start date you have 2-3 months when traffic will be reduced because of declining school attendance (exams) or the main Summer holidays. It's always harder when it's a river crossing that's affected but people do adjust their journeys to cope.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2013 10:24:25 GMT
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Post by snoggle on Dec 13, 2013 10:50:49 GMT
So what? I went by what the council's detailed policy paper said. I'm afraid I am more likely to believe official council papers than what is in a local blog. I thought I would find the meeting minutes that discussed the paper about the closure. Oh look the draft minutes item 19 say that the councillors supported the 6 month closure from June 2014. Do you require any more evidence?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2013 11:05:27 GMT
So what? I went by what the council's detailed policy paper said. I'm afraid I am more likely to believe official council papers than what is in a local blog. I thought I would find the meeting minutes that discussed the paper about the closure. Oh look the draft minutes item 19 say that the councillors supported the 6 month closure from June 2014. Do you require any more evidence? Not really..............I wasn't looking to start a war about it I really couldn't care less one way or t'other whether its gonna be next year or the year after, just wondering whats gonna happen to the buses
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Post by John tuthill on Dec 13, 2013 11:09:27 GMT
I saw the link that you posted which clearly states that the works must be completed before march 2015, but the evening standard say 2015. I guess the standard made a mistake but hasn't corrected it A quick google brings up the fact that Wandsworth Council have opted for a 6 month full closure but are consulting on this. Hammersmith and Fulham Council are complaining about the likely impact on their roads so are demanding a 11 month closure. I suspect the Standard have not bothered to properly research the background. It is perfectly clear if you read the council's paperwork that there are funding cut off dates and Wandsworth quite rightly don't want to lose that funding. The best way to do these major bits of works is the one that gets the work done fastest. Yes it will be a real problem but with a June start date you have 2-3 months when traffic will be reduced because of declining school attendance (exams) or the main Summer holidays. It's always harder when it's a river crossing that's affected but people do adjust their journeys to cope. Maybe Wandsworth should consult with Kingston and ask how they not only refurbish Kingston Bridge, but managed to widen it without a complete shutdown?
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Post by snoggle on Dec 13, 2013 11:10:21 GMT
So what? I went by what the council's detailed policy paper said. I'm afraid I am more likely to believe official council papers than what is in a local blog. I thought I would find the meeting minutes that discussed the paper about the closure. Oh look the draft minutes item 19 say that the councillors supported the 6 month closure from June 2014. Do you require any more evidence? Not really..............I wasn't looking to start a war about it I really couldn't care less one way or t'other whether its gonna be next year or the year after, just wondering whats gonna happen to the buses No one is starting a war. It is important that this sort of stuff is reported and discussed accurately otherwise you end up in a mess. I imagine TfL and the affected bus operators will be in discussion with Wandsworth Council as part of the consultation process that is running. I doubt we will hear anything about route changes until April or May next year assuming the Council's indicative timetable is maintained.
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Post by riverside on Dec 20, 2013 16:42:11 GMT
If the bridge is completely closed could there be a possibility of temporarily reviving the old C4 Putney Pier stand and allowing say the 39 and 85 to terminate there?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2013 20:41:47 GMT
If the bridge is completely closed could there be a possibility of temporarily reviving the old C4 Putney Pier stand and allowing say the 39 and 85 to terminate there? Good point
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2014 13:14:46 GMT
Looks like this is going ahead Full closure during the summer holiday period. Will be very interesting to see what changes are made to the routes that use it.
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Post by M1104 on May 16, 2014 13:28:41 GMT
Looks like this is going ahead Full closure during the summer holiday period. Will be very interesting to see what changes are made to the routes that use it. Can't remember where I read it, but some routes will expected (obviously) to be curtailed, rerouted, or 'extended'. Will be very interesting to know the details, which unfortunately is not in this months LOTS, most slightly due to it being printed before any possible information.
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Post by routew15 on May 16, 2014 17:52:26 GMT
Here is a solution. 14 Diverted to Hammersmith Broadway. 22 Diverted via Wandsworth Bridge Road, Wandsworth bridge, Wandsworth town, then via 270 to Putney Common 74 Curtailed at Putney Bridge Station 85 Curtailed at Putney Garage 93 Curtailed to Putney Garage 265 Extended to Wandsworth 270 Extended to Putney Common 220 Curtailed at Putney Bridge station 424 Curtailed at Putney Bridge station. Extended from Fulham to Hammersmith and then takes up 485 routing to Wandsworth 430 Diverted via Wandsworth Bridge and Fulham Broadway N22 diverted as per 22 N74 follows 430 diversion Routes 14 & 74 temporarily allocated to MW What about ... 14 diverted to Hammersmith Broadway (as said above) 22 to Putney Bridge 39 to Putney, Atney Road 74 to Putney Bridge 85 to Putney, Burstock Road 93 to Putney, Burstock Road 220 Diverted from Putney High Street via Wandsworth Bridge to Wandsworth (430/485 provides links to Putney Bridge, South Side and Putney Station) 265 to Putney Heath, Green Man via Putney High Street (if length restrictions aren't a issue the 265 could serve the 424 route via Chartfield Avenue and Carslake Road as a temporary replacement) 270 to Putney, Atney Road 424 Temporarily withdrawn between Putney Bridge - Putney Heath, Green Man 430 Diverted from Fulham High Street via New King's Road, Wandsworth Bridge Road, Wandsworth, Upper Richmond Road, continuing to Roehampton, Danebury Avenue 485 Service increased due to the 14's Diversion to Hammersmith Broadway Temporary Route 522 Putney Common - Chelsea, Worlds End via Wandsworth Bridge *These proposal would only work effectively if there are: - frequency increases to some of the routes listed - temporary changes of garages or even operators - and changes to Bus Lane timing
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Post by Nathan on May 16, 2014 18:45:16 GMT
Here is a solution. 14 Diverted to Hammersmith Broadway. 22 Diverted via Wandsworth Bridge Road, Wandsworth bridge, Wandsworth town, then via 270 to Putney Common 74 Curtailed at Putney Bridge Station 85 Curtailed at Putney Garage 93 Curtailed to Putney Garage 265 Extended to Wandsworth 270 Extended to Putney Common 220 Curtailed at Putney Bridge station 424 Curtailed at Putney Bridge station. Extended from Fulham to Hammersmith and then takes up 485 routing to Wandsworth 430 Diverted via Wandsworth Bridge and Fulham Broadway N22 diverted as per 22 N74 follows 430 diversion Routes 14 & 74 temporarily allocated to MW Couldn't you just cut the 270 back to Wandsworth? Seeing as the 22 would be rerouted to cover the areas. And why allocate the 14 & 74 to MW? That's ridiculously far. Instead, you should move a few buses out if SW (196, 333, maybe even the 87), and then that would allow the 14 & 74 to move SW as there would be space available.
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