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Post by vjaska on Oct 3, 2018 0:05:59 GMT
The 228 and 487 merged together to reduce amount of buses between Park Royal and Harlesden. It would be far too long a route. |
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Post by COBO on Oct 3, 2018 0:35:23 GMT
The 228 and 487 merged together to reduce amount of buses between Park Royal and Harlesden. It would be far too long a route. Well knowing TFL something along Acton Lane between Park Royal and Harlesden will likely be removed because they don't like road being overbussed or buses overlapping each other. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 5:20:34 GMT
Some suggestions for changes around Hammersmith, partly in response to Crossrail changes or in anticipation of Hammersmith Bridge works. To make some cuts, while simplifying the network in the area. 33 / 295 / 391 / 419 / 430 – Withdrawn. 72 – Converted to DD operation. 74 – Extended from Putney to Roehampton via route 430. 190 – Extended from West Brompton to South Kensington via route 430. 209 – Extended from Hammersmith to Ladbroke Grove via route 295. Extended from Mortlake to Richmond via route 419. Converted to DD operation. 228 – Withdrawn between Maida Hill and Shepherd’s Bush, and instead extended from Shepherd’s Bush to Hammersmith via route 283. 306 – Introduced with the following changes. Extended from Acton Vale to North Acton via route 266. Extended from Sands End to Clapham Junction via Townmead Road, then route 295. 337 - Increased frequency. 72 - I imagine it will run via Chiswick Bridge as I can't see Hammersmith Bridge being sorted anytime in the near future 74 - I'd leave as it is particularly as the 430 is useful in aiding assistance and allows the 74 to prove a more reliable service between Putney High Street & Baker Street 190 - No change though I'd investigate how useful double deckers would be personally 209 - Again, Hammersmith Bridge won't be ready anytime soon plus the 209's frequency would be excessive over the 419 section even before converting it to single deckers 306 - I don't think it needs to go any further than Sands End especially as the C3 already performs this role whilst the 295 links up Fulham Broadway & Hammersmith already but otherwise, I agree with this one 337 - I'd leave it's frequency as it is as it's satisfactory As a result, 4 of the 5 routes you listed for withdrawal should personally stay with the 391 the only one that could be properly worked around Very few of these ideas are realistic. I can see the R68 being at least withdrawn Twickenham to Kew and reduced to x20mins. The 33 will remain in current form. I expect the 209 or 419 to disappear. The 9 will never pop down to Chiswick because tfl have already decreed excess capacity along Chiswick High Road. The 337 I doubt will ever get a frequency increase. |
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Post by londonbuses2018 on Oct 20, 2018 22:13:35 GMT
A change I want to see redone
303 - Rerouted via Corner Mead (This Stops the big gap between Woodcroft Avenue and Royal Air Force Museum I mean seriously why didn’t TFL think of this it’s a long walk)
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Post by VMH2452 on Oct 21, 2018 6:08:00 GMT
A change I want to see redone 303 - Rerouted via Corner Mead (This Stops the big gap between Woodcroft Avenue and Royal Air Force Museum I mean seriously why didn’t TFL think of this it’s a long walk) It's only not using it at the moment because the DLEs can't fit around there and as usual, Barnet Council are taking their time to make the routing possible. |
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Post by ADH45258 on Oct 21, 2018 6:33:05 GMT
A change I want to see redone 303 - Rerouted via Corner Mead (This Stops the big gap between Woodcroft Avenue and Royal Air Force Museum I mean seriously why didn’t TFL think of this it’s a long walk) It's only not using it at the moment because the DLEs can't fit around there and as usual, Barnet Council are taking their time to make the routing possible. They could at least install a temporary bus stop in each direction (on Grahame Park Way), in the interim. |
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Post by londonbuses2018 on Oct 21, 2018 16:39:05 GMT
It's only not using it at the moment because the DLEs can't fit around there and as usual, Barnet Council are taking their time to make the routing possible. They could at least install a temporary bus stop in each direction (on Grahame Park Way), in the interim. Exactly |
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Post by M1104 on Oct 22, 2018 9:46:12 GMT
With the 159 to be cut back to Oxford Circus at all times the (N)159 will effectively become short workings of the N109. I imagine either the N109 being rerouted somewhere north of Brixton so that it doesn't duplicate the 159 beyond that point or the two night routes get merged together.
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Post by sid on Oct 22, 2018 9:53:53 GMT
With the 159 to be cut back to Oxford Circus at all times the (N)159 will effectively become short workings of the N109. I imagine either the N109 being rerouted somewhere north of Brixton so that it doesn't duplicate the 159 beyond that point or the two night routes get merged together Things could be left as they are but if there is any change the most likely outcome would seem the N109 withdrawn north of Brixton and becoming a 24 hour route. |
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Post by M1104 on Oct 22, 2018 10:30:17 GMT
With the 159 to be cut back to Oxford Circus at all times the (N)159 will effectively become short workings of the N109. I imagine either the N109 being rerouted somewhere north of Brixton so that it doesn't duplicate the 159 beyond that point or the two night routes get merged together Things could be left as they are but if there is any change the most likely outcome would seem the N109 withdrawn north of Brixton and becoming a 24 hour route. Personally I see more possibility of a merge into one route so that Norbury, Thornton Heath and Croydon's night link is maintained with the West End with frequency adjusted accordingly. |
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Post by sid on Oct 22, 2018 10:57:31 GMT
Things could be left as they are but if there is any change the most likely outcome would seem the N109 withdrawn north of Brixton and becoming a 24 hour route. Personally I see more possibility of a merge into one route so that Norbury, Thornton Heath and Croydon's night link is maintained with the West End with frequency adjusted accordingly. I agree that would be the sensible thing to do in fact I don't know why it wasn't left as the N159. |
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Post by vjaska on Oct 22, 2018 12:32:57 GMT
Personally I see more possibility of a merge into one route so that Norbury, Thornton Heath and Croydon's night link is maintained with the West End with frequency adjusted accordingly. I agree that would be the sensible thing to do in fact I don't know why it wasn't left as the N159. The reasoning most likely was that the N159 was run in two sections and likely it was an anomaly they wanted removing. The core section between Oxford Circus & Streatham also became more frequent as a result IIRC. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Oct 22, 2018 12:50:23 GMT
It was sort of a mix of freqs with Marble Arch to Streatham needing pre night tube a 10 min freq, down to Croydon atleast every 20 mins and New Addington needing only a 30 min serve hence the N64 being introduced. Now with the night tube I can see a 15 min N109 with the (N)159 being withdrawn and maybe even the (N)250.
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Post by vjaska on Oct 22, 2018 14:29:52 GMT
It was sort of a mix of freqs with Marble Arch to Streatham needing pre night tube a 10 min freq, down to Croydon atleast every 20 mins and New Addington needing only a 30 min serve hence the N64 being introduced. Now with the night tube I can see a 15 min N109 with the (N)159 being withdrawn and maybe even the (N)250. Withdrawing the 250 at night leaves the Green Lane & Brigstock Road areas without a night service & long walks to the nearest night buses so I don't see that happening - a restructuring of the 159 & N109 though is far more a possibility but neither route follows the night tube in particular bar the link of Oxford Circus & Brixton so who knows how in danger that really is. |
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Post by paulsw2 on Oct 22, 2018 14:41:26 GMT
I agree that would be the sensible thing to do in fact I don't know why it wasn't left as the N159. The reasoning most likely was that the N159 was run in two sections and likely it was an anomaly they wanted removing. The core section between Oxford Circus & Streatham also became more frequent as a result IIRC. The N159 did not run in 2 sections it had a bifurcation New Addington or Old Coulsdon but they were full length this lasted until the N68 was introduced to Old Coulsdon when it was Marble Arch - New Addington |
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