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Post by M1104 on Jun 11, 2022 10:06:25 GMT
Route 45 was traditionally South Kensington - Camberwell - King's Cross - Archway, the Archway extension being 1978-85. Now that route 45 is being withdrawn, route 345 South Kensington - Camberwell - Peckham may as well reclaim the number 45 sooner or later. Was the Archway extension then daily? I remember it still going that far on Sundays beyond 1985. |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jun 11, 2022 11:57:09 GMT
Route 45 was traditionally South Kensington - Camberwell - King's Cross - Archway, the Archway extension being 1978-85. Now that route 45 is being withdrawn, route 345 South Kensington - Camberwell - Peckham may as well reclaim the number 45 sooner or later. Was the Archway extension then daily? I remember it still going that far on Sundays beyond 1985. It was Mon-Fri 1978-83 and Daily 1983-85. Now you mention it, I think it may have continued on Sundays until 1991. |
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Post by ServerKing on Jun 11, 2022 13:57:02 GMT
W4 to become 4, W3 becomes 391, W5 becomes 271, W6 becomes 392, W7 becomes 373, W8 becomes 374, W9 becomes 475.... The gaps in the W routes has bugged me for some time...  |
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Post by Busboy105 on Jun 11, 2022 15:30:51 GMT
W4 to become 4, W3 becomes 391, W5 becomes 271, W6 becomes 392, W7 becomes 373, W8 becomes 374, W9 becomes 475.... The gaps in the W routes has bugged me for some time... I don't even know what the W means for W5,W6,W7,W8 and W9 |
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Post by WH241 on Jun 11, 2022 16:34:16 GMT
W4 to become 4, W3 becomes 391, W5 becomes 271, W6 becomes 392, W7 becomes 373, W8 becomes 374, W9 becomes 475.... The gaps in the W routes has bugged me for some time... I don't even know what the W means for W5,W6,W7,W8 and W9 Probably Wood Green even if the routes no longer serve the area directly. |
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Post by wirewiper on Jun 11, 2022 16:53:08 GMT
W4 to become 4, W3 becomes 391, W5 becomes 271, W6 becomes 392, W7 becomes 373, W8 becomes 374, W9 becomes 475.... The gaps in the W routes has bugged me for some time...  I don't even know what the W means for W5,W6,W7,W8 and W9 The W8 was a renumbering of the 128 when it converted from crew to flat-fare OMO using a farebox, at that time there were a number of W-prefix flat-fare routes in the area. W9 was a new minibus route in 1973 (at the time it was introduced it was also flat-fare and used a farebox. W4, W5 and W6 were new midibus routes in the late 1980s/early 1990s and were designed to provide new links to roads and areas previously unserved. As there were still a number of W-prefix routes in the area they filled in the gap between W3 and W7. |
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Post by vjaska on Jun 11, 2022 17:09:29 GMT
Route 45 was traditionally South Kensington - Camberwell - King's Cross - Archway, the Archway extension being 1978-85. Now that route 45 is being withdrawn, route 345 South Kensington - Camberwell - Peckham may as well reclaim the number 45 sooner or later. It would simply create confusion when people think this bus is meant to go straight ahead at Camberwell or turn right at Brixton The obsession with route numbers with the affected routes in the consultation is hilarious - the fact people are more fussed with them rather than the damage being done to the network and the broken links says it all |
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Post by towerman on Jun 11, 2022 17:47:25 GMT
I don't even know what the W means for W5,W6,W7,W8 and W9 Probably Wood Green even if the routes no longer serve the area directly. Also means Walthamstow.W11,12,13,14,15 & 16.There was also a W21 circular introduced when the Vic Line opened it later became the 212. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Jun 11, 2022 18:18:04 GMT
Route 45 was traditionally South Kensington - Camberwell - King's Cross - Archway, the Archway extension being 1978-85. Now that route 45 is being withdrawn, route 345 South Kensington - Camberwell - Peckham may as well reclaim the number 45 sooner or later. It would simply create confusion when people think this bus is meant to go straight ahead at Camberwell or turn right at Brixton The obsession with route numbers with the affected routes in the consultation is hilarious - the fact people are more fussed with them rather than the damage being done to the network and the broken links says it all It's a shame they can't split the 45 and 345 routes into 45 Clapham Park to Peckham and maybe 345 S Kensington to Brixton. That way the link to Kings from Brixton Hill is maintained and the 345 becomes a bit shorter. Not sure if it would be too long but could send the 345 to Anerley via the 432 which would be withdrawn. |
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Post by ServerKing on Jun 11, 2022 20:01:08 GMT
W4 to become 4, W3 becomes 391, W5 becomes 271, W6 becomes 392, W7 becomes 373, W8 becomes 374, W9 becomes 475.... The gaps in the W routes has bugged me for some time... I don't even know what the W means for W5,W6,W7,W8 and W9 It's the gaps... I think the BBC used to run a W1 and W2 bus shuttle between studios in Regent Street and White City at the time, perhaps there was no W1 or W2 buses in Wood Green for that reason  the W5, W6, W7, W8, W9 are nowhere nearby... W10 became 456, W11-19 are around Woodford and Walthamstow (is there even a W17 or 18?)... the gaps in numbers make my teeth itch  |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jun 11, 2022 20:53:02 GMT
I don't even know what the W means for W5,W6,W7,W8 and W9 It's the gaps... I think the BBC used to run a W1 and W2 bus shuttle between studios in Regent Street and White City at the time, perhaps there was no W1 or W2 buses in Wood Green for that reason  the W5, W6, W7, W8, W9 are nowhere nearby... W10 became 456, W11-19 are around Woodford and Walthamstow (is there even a W17 or 18?)... the gaps in numbers make my teeth itch  I think there was a Mon-Fri route W2 in the Wood Green area. If anything, it is a route number W12 that ought to serve the BBC at White City. |
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Post by Busboy105 on Jun 11, 2022 21:50:08 GMT
I don't even know what the W means for W5,W6,W7,W8 and W9 It's the gaps... I think the BBC used to run a W1 and W2 bus shuttle between studios in Regent Street and White City at the time, perhaps there was no W1 or W2 buses in Wood Green for that reason the W5, W6, W7, W8, W9 are nowhere nearby... W10 became 456, W11-19 are around Woodford and Walthamstow (is there even a W17 or 18?)... the gaps in numbers make my teeth itch Isn't there a W17 that's proposed to happen? Or is that out-of the water? |
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Post by VMH2537 on Jun 12, 2022 5:06:09 GMT
It's the gaps... I think the BBC used to run a W1 and W2 bus shuttle between studios in Regent Street and White City at the time, perhaps there was no W1 or W2 buses in Wood Green for that reason the W5, W6, W7, W8, W9 are nowhere nearby... W10 became 456, W11-19 are around Woodford and Walthamstow (is there even a W17 or 18?)... the gaps in numbers make my teeth itch Isn't there a W17 that's proposed to happen? Or is that out-of the water? The W15's contract has recently been renewed so I can't see the idea implemented for a while. However it was said it could be revisited in the future as a reliability measure aswell supporting the planned Whipps Cross developments with additional capacity provided between Leyton and Whipps Cross. |
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Post by TB123 on Jun 12, 2022 8:27:28 GMT
Isn't there a W17 that's proposed to happen? Or is that out-of the water? The W15's contract has recently been renewed so I can't see the idea implemented for a while. However it was said it could be revisited in the future as a reliability measure aswell supporting the planned Whipps Cross developments with additional capacity provided between Leyton and Whipps Cross. The idea remains on the incubator, so to speak, if the W15 continues to fail it's performance targets as it did with Tower. The new contract is nothing to stop it happening either - see 140/X140, 306/391, 407/443 which happened midcontract |
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Post by Busboy105 on Jun 12, 2022 12:49:56 GMT
Probably Wood Green even if the routes no longer serve the area directly. Also means Walthamstow.W11,12,13,14,15 & 16.There was also a W21 circular introduced when the Vic Line opened it later became the 212. I thought it was Waltham Forest as the W13, W14 and W16 doesn't serve Walthamstow |
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the W5, W6, W7, W8, W9 are nowhere nearby... W10 became 456, W11-19 are around Woodford and Walthamstow (is there even a W17 or 18?)... the gaps in numbers make my teeth itch 
the W5, W6, W7, W8, W9 are nowhere nearby... W10 became 456, W11-19 are around Woodford and Walthamstow (is there even a W17 or 18?)... the gaps in numbers make my teeth itch 
