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Post by vjaska on Aug 3, 2023 13:38:24 GMT
About time - that’s who they should of been going after rather than ordinary people Or maybe even better they should stop their illegal behaviour? Against ordinary people - yes but if they wish to protest against the ones in charge of the system, then that's up to them |
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Post by SILENCED on Aug 3, 2023 14:55:02 GMT
You can't condone that behaviour! All that will happened is some oil based solution will be used to clean any damage off, and the tax payer picks up the bill. Money that that could be so better utilised. Health, Education, Defence, Immigration, Environment ... or whatever takes your fancy. But there isn't any damage - they put up a black screen in front of his house as shown on ITV News this lunch time. No paint was involved so nothing to clean off. What they have shown is how lax his security is though. I saw it reported that the screen was oil covered cloth ... has that been changed. I imagine someone in the Police is going to be disciplined over this incident You see these get arrested, why not the road blockers? |
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Post by ronnie on Aug 3, 2023 18:52:58 GMT
But there isn't any damage - they put up a black screen in front of his house as shown on ITV News this lunch time. No paint was involved so nothing to clean off. What they have shown is how lax his security is though. I saw it reported that the screen was oil covered cloth ... has that been changed. I imagine someone in the Police is going to be disciplined over this incident You see these get arrested, why not the road blockers? Because we are cattle class, don’t matter in the grand scheme of things? |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Oct 12, 2023 23:21:43 GMT
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Post by capitalomnibus on Oct 13, 2023 9:34:56 GMT
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Post by northlondon83 on Oct 14, 2023 16:15:14 GMT
it's about time the police did their job properly and arrest and jail these muppets |
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Post by WH241 on Oct 14, 2023 16:30:54 GMT
it's about time the police did their job properly and arrest and jail these muppets Yea because they will help won’t it? Even if they did jail them it wouldn’t be a long sentence and prisons are already overcrowded. With groups like Just Stop Oil there will always be others ready to step up and take the place of others who get arrested. |
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Post by wirewiper on Oct 14, 2023 17:19:20 GMT
it's about time the police did their job properly and arrest and jail these muppets I'd rather they were fined and made to clean up the damage they had done - unpaid. |
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Post by northlondon83 on Oct 14, 2023 22:39:33 GMT
it's about time the police did their job properly and arrest and jail these muppets Yea because they will help won’t it? Even if they did jail them it wouldn’t be a long sentence and prisons are already overcrowded. With groups like Just Stop Oil there will always be others ready to step up and take the place of others who get arrested. Jailing them acts as a deterrent although these people aren't scared of anything. The justice system in this country is too soft. Also regarding overcrowded jail's surely you could just build new ones or expand existing ones |
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Post by vjaska on Oct 14, 2023 23:27:32 GMT
Yea because they will help won’t it? Even if they did jail them it wouldn’t be a long sentence and prisons are already overcrowded. With groups like Just Stop Oil there will always be others ready to step up and take the place of others who get arrested. Jailing them acts as a deterrent although these people aren't scared of anything. The justice system in this country is too soft. Also regarding overcrowded jail's surely you could just build new ones or expand existing ones Well that should be happening but we've had a government for 13 years that hasn't been interested in anything but cuts, cuts and more cuts. Even then, some of the existing ones would need a shed load of money thrown at them given a number have been largely left as since the Victorian era, a bit like the sewer system in London |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Oct 14, 2023 23:42:30 GMT
Jailing them acts as a deterrent although these people aren't scared of anything. The justice system in this country is too soft. Also regarding overcrowded jail's surely you could just build new ones or expand existing ones Well that should be happening but we've had a government for 13 years that hasn't been interested in anything but cuts, cuts and more cuts. Even then, some of the existing ones would need a shed load of money thrown at them given a number have been largely left as since the Victorian era, a bit like the sewer system in London Even before cuts we have been having the shortages in prisons. This has been happening since the 90's, so it is nothing new. As for Victorian era prisons, I do not expect them to be hotels. Maybe we should have prisons from William the conqeror era, especially for Just Stop Oil. They should be served moudly bread and dirty acid rain water.  |
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Post by vjaska on Oct 15, 2023 1:13:28 GMT
Well that should be happening but we've had a government for 13 years that hasn't been interested in anything but cuts, cuts and more cuts. Even then, some of the existing ones would need a shed load of money thrown at them given a number have been largely left as since the Victorian era, a bit like the sewer system in London Even before cuts we have been having the shortages in prisons. This has been happening since the 90's, so it is nothing new. As for Victorian era prisons, I do not expect them to be hotels. Maybe we should have prisons from William the conqeror era, especially for Just Stop Oil. They should be served moudly bread and dirty acid rain water. The point I'm making is investment into prisons is going to be non existent when you have a government in charge only interested in making cuts, yet one of the hallmarks of Tory policy is to be top notch on anything crime related and the falling apart of the prison system shows they haven't. No one said anything about expecting them to be hotels but I at least expect them to not be crumbling to pieces and to have at the very least, not only adequate levels of staffing but actually a decent working environment that won't mean staff simply leave the profession resulting in the shortages in the first place. |
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Post by WH241 on Oct 15, 2023 16:29:59 GMT
Yea because they will help won’t it? Even if they did jail them it wouldn’t be a long sentence and prisons are already overcrowded. With groups like Just Stop Oil there will always be others ready to step up and take the place of others who get arrested. Jailing them acts as a deterrent although these people aren't scared of anything. The justice system in this country is too soft. Also regarding overcrowded jail's surely you could just build new ones or expand existing ones If it was that easy to build new prisons then I’m sure it would have been done. There are far more pressing crimes that the police need to be tackling like the shoplifting epidemic and knife crime! |
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Post by northlondon83 on Oct 15, 2023 17:49:21 GMT
Jailing them acts as a deterrent although these people aren't scared of anything. The justice system in this country is too soft. Also regarding overcrowded jail's surely you could just build new ones or expand existing ones If it was that easy to build new prisons then I’m sure it would have been done. There are far more pressing crimes that the police need to be tackling like the shoplifting epidemic and knife crime! I get your points about more important crimes for the police to deal with but these people are disrupting people's lives, some people who were disrupted by the protestors had to go to hospital to see family etc. It only seems right to jail these protestors (this wouldn't need to happen if they protested in a peaceful way) |
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Post by WH241 on Oct 15, 2023 19:16:16 GMT
If it was that easy to build new prisons then I’m sure it would have been done. There are far more pressing crimes that the police need to be tackling like the shoplifting epidemic and knife crime! I get your points about more important crimes for the police to deal with but these people are disrupting people's lives, some people who were disrupted by the protestors had to go to hospital to see family etc. It only seems right to jail these protestors (this wouldn't need to happen if they protested in a peaceful way) You don't get the point I am making. Even if they were sent to jail there would be another person ready to take their place and cause the same disruption. They are almost cult like and don't see what they are doing is wrong.
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