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Post by capitalomnibus on Oct 16, 2023 10:10:26 GMT
I get your points about more important crimes for the police to deal with but these people are disrupting people's lives, some people who were disrupted by the protestors had to go to hospital to see family etc. It only seems right to jail these protestors (this wouldn't need to happen if they protested in a peaceful way) You don't get the point I am making. Even if they were sent to jail there would be another person ready to take their place and cause the same disruption. They are almost cult like and don't see what they are doing is wrong.
Hmmmm, well on this basis, no point in jailing someone who kills someone after all there would always be someone else going to do the same thing. |
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Post by WH241 on Oct 16, 2023 10:16:07 GMT
You don't get the point I am making. Even if they were sent to jail there would be another person ready to take their place and cause the same disruption. They are almost cult like and don't see what they are doing is wrong.
Hmmmm, well on this basis, no point in jailing someone who kills someone after all there would always be someone else going to do the same thing. No that’s not that same at all. I just think NorthLondon have a type of thinking that these protesters will be arrested on the streets and taking straight to jail. I give up trying to make my point in this matter. |
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Post by northlondon83 on Oct 16, 2023 10:41:41 GMT
I get your points about more important crimes for the police to deal with but these people are disrupting people's lives, some people who were disrupted by the protestors had to go to hospital to see family etc. It only seems right to jail these protestors (this wouldn't need to happen if they protested in a peaceful way) You don't get the point I am making. Even if they were sent to jail there would be another person ready to take their place and cause the same disruption. They are almost cult like and don't see what they are doing is wrong.
Surely jailing them would result in the opposite, IE protestors being less likely to protest seeing as their mates would have been jailed for the same thing if this was to happen |
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Post by WH241 on Oct 16, 2023 10:58:17 GMT
You don't get the point I am making. Even if they were sent to jail there would be another person ready to take their place and cause the same disruption. They are almost cult like and don't see what they are doing is wrong.
Surely jailing them would result in the opposite, IE protestors being less likely to protest seeing as their mates would have been jailed for the same thing if this was to happen It wouldn’t stop them and in their mind it would be a price worth paying. Any jail sentence would be fairly short. There will always be protests agains something and always has been. |
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Post by greenboy on Oct 16, 2023 11:02:20 GMT
You don't get the point I am making. Even if they were sent to jail there would be another person ready to take their place and cause the same disruption. They are almost cult like and don't see what they are doing is wrong.
Surely jailing them would result in the opposite, IE protestors being less likely to protest seeing as their mates would have been jailed for the same thing if this was to happen It would probably just make martyrs of them and whatever the rights and wrongs of their actions I don't think they're a danger to the public. One of the reasons for prison overcrowding in this country is that far more people are sent to prison compared to other European countries. |
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Post by northlondon83 on Oct 16, 2023 13:13:20 GMT
Surely jailing them would result in the opposite, IE protestors being less likely to protest seeing as their mates would have been jailed for the same thing if this was to happen It wouldn’t stop them and in their mind it would be a price worth paying. Any jail sentence would be fairly short. There will always be protests agains something and always has been. The difference between them and normal protestors are quite different. Most people who protest do so in a lawful way that is not obstructing the actions of other people. Sadly JSO are not only making a fool of themselves but are alienating attempts to combat climate change. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Oct 16, 2023 22:59:10 GMT
Surely jailing them would result in the opposite, IE protestors being less likely to protest seeing as their mates would have been jailed for the same thing if this was to happen It would probably just make martyrs of them and whatever the rights and wrongs of their actions I don't think they're a danger to the public. One of the reasons for prison overcrowding in this country is that far more people are sent to prison compared to other European countries. Well other countries in Europe do not have the same levels of crime, so hence they have less people being jailed. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Oct 18, 2023 22:00:09 GMT
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Post by SILENCED on Oct 18, 2023 22:26:31 GMT
Let's hope the little weasel gets deported so she can never come back. |
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Post by northlondon83 on Oct 19, 2023 4:20:49 GMT
Let's hope the little weasel gets deported so she can never come back. Better still, let's hope she is jailed for a few months in her own country, it will teach her to stop being such a little brat. |
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Post by lundnah on Oct 19, 2023 6:38:36 GMT
This discussion is getting depressingly unforumlike.
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Post by northlondon83 on Oct 19, 2023 10:41:57 GMT
Surely jailing them would result in the opposite, IE protestors being less likely to protest seeing as their mates would have been jailed for the same thing if this was to happen It would probably just make martyrs of them and whatever the rights and wrongs of their actions I don't think they're a danger to the public. One of the reasons for prison overcrowding in this country is that far more people are sent to prison compared to other European countries. Well I think the way to solve overcrowding in prisons is to bring back the death penalty. Say all the murderers in this country were executed, it would make space for people who should go to jail for lesser crimes like JSO protestors. It would also result in crime levels dropping as no one would want to commit murder when they know they could be executed. Quite frankly I think that a lot of crimes should be punished by death eg murder, rape, child abuse, trafficking, sexual/physical abuse etc |
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Post by WH241 on Oct 19, 2023 11:06:12 GMT
It would probably just make martyrs of them and whatever the rights and wrongs of their actions I don't think they're a danger to the public. One of the reasons for prison overcrowding in this country is that far more people are sent to prison compared to other European countries. Well I think the way to solve overcrowding in prisons is to bring back the death penalty. Say all the murderers in this country were executed, it would make space for people who should go to jail for lesser crimes like JSO protestors. It would also result in crime levels dropping as no one would want to commit murder when they know they could be executed. Quite frankly I think that a lot of crimes should be punished by death eg murder, rape, child abuse, trafficking, sexual/physical abuse etc I honestly think this is an awful reply! You really need to think before posting. |
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Post by greenboy on Oct 19, 2023 11:19:39 GMT
It would probably just make martyrs of them and whatever the rights and wrongs of their actions I don't think they're a danger to the public. One of the reasons for prison overcrowding in this country is that far more people are sent to prison compared to other European countries. Well I think the way to solve overcrowding in prisons is to bring back the death penalty. Say all the murderers in this country were executed, it would make space for people who should go to jail for lesser crimes like JSO protestors. It would also result in crime levels dropping as no one would want to commit murder when they know they could be executed. Quite frankly I think that a lot of crimes should be punished by death eg murder, rape, child abuse, trafficking, sexual/physical abuse etc I don't think there is any likelihood of the death penalty being restored and sadly there are still miscarriages of justice such as Andy Malkinson. |
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Post by vjaska on Oct 19, 2023 11:49:13 GMT
It would probably just make martyrs of them and whatever the rights and wrongs of their actions I don't think they're a danger to the public. One of the reasons for prison overcrowding in this country is that far more people are sent to prison compared to other European countries. Well I think the way to solve overcrowding in prisons is to bring back the death penalty. Say all the murderers in this country were executed, it would make space for people who should go to jail for lesser crimes like JSO protestors. It would also result in crime levels dropping as no one would want to commit murder when they know they could be executed. Quite frankly I think that a lot of crimes should be punished by death eg murder, rape, child abuse, trafficking, sexual/physical abuse etc That won’t solve the problems you might think it does - having capital punishment doesn’t necessarily result in a lower crime rate. The US is a good example where several states still have the death penalty and yet the crime rate over there hasn’t improved. Then you have the issue around miscarriages of justice - you can somewhat rectify a situation of an innocent person being sent to prison but you can’t do so if they’ve been executed which, again using the US here, has happened several times previously. |
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