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Post by vjaska on Sept 27, 2023 16:00:56 GMT
Where did I say Croydon should get less? I said everyone should be invested in equally and I've always said this - it's got nothing to do with being on the better end of it and Lambeth has far from always been on the better end of it. Where I disagree with you is where we start picking and choosing which areas to invest in which is exactly what is happening now in regards to Outer London. But Croydon does get less than Lambeth. Despite a population that is 60k greater, we receive £95m less from central government. It should be evened up over the whole of London rather than inner London going yeah I am all right while outer London suffers. Why do inner London Boroughs receive more than outer London per capita? It should be evened out, which will mean outer London gets more, whilst inner London gets less I agree it should be evened out across all London, my disagreement is you don't achieve it by saying Inner London should get less because your simply repeating the status quo but in reverse. Inner London should continue to be funded as per and Outer London should get increased funding.
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Post by SILENCED on Sept 27, 2023 16:13:26 GMT
But Croydon does get less than Lambeth. Despite a population that is 60k greater, we receive £95m less from central government. It should be evened up over the whole of London rather than inner London going yeah I am all right while outer London suffers. Why do inner London Boroughs receive more than outer London per capita? It should be evened out, which will mean outer London gets more, whilst inner London gets less I agree it should be evened out across all London, my disagreement is you don't achieve it by saying Inner London should get less because your simply repeating the status quo but in reverse. Inner London should continue to be funded as per and Outer London should get increased funding. If you are going to raise every across the country to the highest common denominator, I hope you are fully prepared to pay extra taxes to cover the cost. There is not infinite money, what is there needs to be spread more fairly. The calculations are based on the 80s , when inner London was the deprived area, and Outer London more affluent. It is no longer the case, something should be recalibrated to represent the shift in wealth. A lot of inner London has been gentrified, so should no longer receive deprivation funding.
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Post by greenboy on Sept 27, 2023 20:21:30 GMT
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Post by cardinal on Sept 28, 2023 8:13:57 GMT
I agree it should be evened out across all London, my disagreement is you don't achieve it by saying Inner London should get less because your simply repeating the status quo but in reverse. Inner London should continue to be funded as per and Outer London should get increased funding. If you are going to raise every across the country to the highest common denominator, I hope you are fully prepared to pay extra taxes to cover the cost. There is not infinite money, what is there needs to be spread more fairly. The calculations are based on the 80s , when inner London was the deprived area, and Outer London more affluent. It is no longer the case, something should be recalibrated to represent the shift in wealth. A lot of inner London has been gentrified, so should no longer receive deprivation funding. Worked in both inner and outer (& central) An issue I see with outer boroughs and now LA’s bordering outer London boroughs is that poorer families have for decades now been pushed outwards. I know some inner London councils have been rehousing “problem” families outwards, after being evicted. This is sometimes also down to housing associations. Croydon is a perfect case study of a declining town. Bustling in the 70’s and 80’s with the Whitgift , selected for the tram network all looking up. It’s hard not to talk about changing demographics when it comes to this town, but it is fair to say for some reason it has suffered more than its closest neighbours (Sutton, Merton & Bromley) with youth related crime and disorder. Perhaps that is due to it feeling more like a mini London and being more connected with more social housing provision than its neighbours. This latest tragedy should focus everyone’s mind on what can be done to prevent this. We have people making thousands of pounds making dramas depicting the most serious violence on the streets of our city. Cops won’t stop and search anyone these days, they get surrounded and have allegations made about them if they do so there is no point. Social workers are under paid and aren’t enough of them. Probation service is non existent. Jails and youth detention facilities are over crowded. CPS refuse to take youth crime seriously and continually let teenagers out on bail despite being charged with serious offences. Society reaps what it sows. It’s really sad - really needs some leadership to solve this crisis.
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Post by greenboy on Sept 28, 2023 10:06:26 GMT
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Post by vjaska on Sept 28, 2023 11:42:50 GMT
I agree it should be evened out across all London, my disagreement is you don't achieve it by saying Inner London should get less because your simply repeating the status quo but in reverse. Inner London should continue to be funded as per and Outer London should get increased funding. If you are going to raise every across the country to the highest common denominator, I hope you are fully prepared to pay extra taxes to cover the cost. There is not infinite money, what is there needs to be spread more fairly. The calculations are based on the 80s , when inner London was the deprived area, and Outer London more affluent. It is no longer the case, something should be recalibrated to represent the shift in wealth. A lot of inner London has been gentrified, so should no longer receive deprivation funding. Sorry but this is woefully wrong: Firstly, not all of Inner London is gentrified and secondly just because gentrification is occurring doesn’t mean that deprivation doesn’t exist because I can categorically tell you that Lambeth still has plenty of deprivation across the borough. I’ve not stated anything about infinite money and everything of course needs to be paid for but if good things are actually going to be implemented, I’m perfectly ok with paying extra as would most people.
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Post by greenboy on Sept 29, 2023 6:53:00 GMT
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Post by greenboy on Sept 29, 2023 9:01:48 GMT
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Post by cardinal on Oct 10, 2023 21:31:23 GMT
Be careful using phones around the pavements in Oxford Street area - lots of phone snatches , especially at dusk and into the evening. Be on look out for the electric scooters !
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Post by abellion on Oct 11, 2023 19:39:09 GMT
Be careful using phones around the pavements in Oxford Street area - lots of phone snatches , especially at dusk and into the evening. Be on look out for the electric scooters ! One of my friends had his phone snatched in Brixton a few months ago and it is now in China… it should be common sense for people to stop being so careless with how long this has been going on for
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Post by greenboy on Mar 27, 2024 21:16:48 GMT
This really is a shocking incident in broad daylight and there is concern locally that the lunatic responsible is still at large.
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Post by greenboy on Mar 28, 2024 12:19:06 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2024 12:24:55 GMT
This really is a shocking incident in broad daylight and there is concern locally that the lunatic responsible is still at large. The video circulating shows how desensitised we have become as a community to knife crime...
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Post by COBO on Mar 28, 2024 13:15:51 GMT
It's amazing how bold criminals have become. He was attacking this man in broad daylight in a carriage full of passengers. Omg. Thank the lord he's been arrested.
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Post by greenboy on Mar 28, 2024 14:11:29 GMT
And sadly another incident at Kennington
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