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Post by SILENCED on Apr 30, 2024 15:34:24 GMT
Yes its a wider cultural problem, young men who have had bad parenting, lookup to their thuggish music stars and celebrities as role models. We need more policing, more stop and search of young men who dress in a certain thuggish way and we need to arm the police - its the only deterrent, to the wider thug culture that is glorified. Yes all crime is up car thefts , tool thefts aswell as knife crime we need more Police but it wasn't Sadiq who cut the police , I feel like politics has gone stupid because people don't like Sadiq they literally try to blame him for anything and everything instead of using common sense , yes he could do more on knife crime and all crime for that matter but regardless your not going to stop someone with mental health issues wether Boris , Susan or Donald Trump is the Mayor of London . We need a police force who will be backed up by the Mayor, not constantly slagged off by them. A different Mayor, may direct the police to be less tolerant of thefts and violent crime, and support a harder line. |
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Post by jacques on Apr 30, 2024 15:49:27 GMT
Yes its a wider cultural problem, young men who have had bad parenting, lookup to their thuggish music stars and celebrities as role models. We need more policing, more stop and search of young men who dress in a certain thuggish way and we need to arm the police - its the only deterrent, to the wider thug culture that is glorified. Yes all crime is up car thefts , tool thefts aswell as knife crime we need more Police but it wasn't Sadiq who cut the police , I feel like politics has gone stupid because people don't like Sadiq they literally try to blame him for anything and everything instead of using common sense , yes he could do more on knife crime and all crime for that matter but regardless your not going to stop someone with mental health issues wether Boris , Susan or Donald Trump is the Mayor of London . Surely you can understand why people blame Khan. Khan, other politicians and the media constantly provides as with an excuse for every crime and terrorist attack. Rather than acknowledging that its the perpetrator, that needs to take full responsibility for their actions. |
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Post by busman on Apr 30, 2024 16:08:50 GMT
The bottom line is London does not feel as safe as it once did. Khan is very quick to virtue signal and appeal to the liberal left, but I just wish he would campaign and act strongly to make London safe and help our police to get tougher on crime and the causes of crime as passionately as he champions air pollution. Awful mayor, with completely wrong priorities.
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Post by Paul on Apr 30, 2024 16:09:53 GMT
The Hainault incident is just another in the long list of Sadiq Khan’s failures to get on top of knife crime and now, tragically, another young lad is dead 😔 Not sure how this can be blamed on Sadiq Khan. A person, potentially with mental health issues, stabbing people at random isn't a "knife crime." And there’s the screen of ‘mental health issues.’ Does this killer having ‘mental health issues’ excuse his actions today? A simple yes or no answer will do |
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Post by jacques on Apr 30, 2024 16:57:06 GMT
The bottom line is London does not feel as safe as it once did. Khan is very quick to virtue signal and appeal to the liberal left, but I just wish he would campaign and act strongly to make London safe and help our police to get tougher on crime and the causes of crime as passionately as he champions air pollution. Awful mayor, with completely wrong priorities. Well said, Khan's priorities have always been elsewhere, he and the Labour party as a whole turn a blind eye to issues that are dear to ordinary citizens, cost of living, housing, NHS, shortage of schools and other public services, that have been affected massive population changes in the last 20 years. Instead their focus is always on net zero or global affairs that should not be the priority of the London mayor. |
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Post by ThinLizzy on Apr 30, 2024 17:11:01 GMT
Not sure how this can be blamed on Sadiq Khan. A person, potentially with mental health issues, stabbing people at random isn't a "knife crime." And there’s the screen of ‘mental health issues.’ Does this killer having ‘mental health issues’ excuse his actions today? A simple yes or no answer will do It's not an excuse, it's an explanation. |
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Post by SILENCED on Apr 30, 2024 17:16:45 GMT
The Hainault incident is just another in the long list of Sadiq Khan’s failures to get on top of knife crime and now, tragically, another young lad is dead 😔 Not sure how this can be blamed on Sadiq Khan. A person, potentially with mental health issues, stabbing people at random isn't a "knife crime." How is someone stabbing someone with a bladed instrument not a knife crime? I thought that was the very definition of knife crime. Ars the random shootings in the US, not gun crime? |
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Post by ThinLizzy on Apr 30, 2024 17:34:36 GMT
Not sure how this can be blamed on Sadiq Khan. A person, potentially with mental health issues, stabbing people at random isn't a "knife crime." How is someone stabbing someone with a bladed instrument not a knife crime? I thought that was the very definition of knife crime. Ars the random shootings in the US, not gun crime? perhaps I should have explained what I meant better A sword attack carried out by a person who may have been going through a mental health episode is not the sort of knife crime that are pretty much out of the control of any politician or police authority. |
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Post by vjaska on Apr 30, 2024 17:37:07 GMT
Maybe it’s because I lived in Brixton almost my entire life but I don’t feel London is any more or less safe than when I was growing up. Stabbings were regular and shootings felt way more regular than they do now.
I find those blaming Khan but not the government either wide of the mark or worse, playing politics by sticking up for one faction based on their past or present political ideology. We all know Khan is poor and shouldn’t be in power but I do think people really do take it overboard and start stretching certain things relating to him
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Post by SILENCED on Apr 30, 2024 17:43:57 GMT
How is someone stabbing someone with a bladed instrument not a knife crime? I thought that was the very definition of knife crime. Ars the random shootings in the US, not gun crime? perhaps I should have explained what I meant better A sword attack carried out by a person who may have been going through a mental health episode is not the sort of knife crime that are pretty much out of the control of any politician or police authority. Surely you have to question whether someone with that severe mental health issues should be free to roam the streets. They should be getting treatment. Who has the ultimate say on that? Honest opinion not sure .... should the general public not be offered and expect more protection from the authorities? |
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Post by Paul on Apr 30, 2024 17:44:41 GMT
And there’s the screen of ‘mental health issues.’ Does this killer having ‘mental health issues’ excuse his actions today? A simple yes or no answer will do It's not an excuse, it's an explanation. I’m sure the family of the killer’s 14yo victim will take solace in that ‘explanation’ |
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Post by mondraker275 on Apr 30, 2024 17:45:59 GMT
How is someone stabbing someone with a bladed instrument not a knife crime? I thought that was the very definition of knife crime. Ars the random shootings in the US, not gun crime? perhaps I should have explained what I meant better A sword attack carried out by a person who may have been going through a mental health episode is not the sort of knife crime that are pretty much out of the control of any politician or police authority. I got what you were trying to say. If he drove the car into people and killed them then this would not be the conversation nor are the Nottingham incidents being treated as 'How do we sort out knife crime?'. I think these type of solo incidents (mainly mental health or hate related) will happen more and with mention of the US, if this person was there he would have done alot more damage to lives and families. Knives are obviously used normally in society so difficult to prevent someone from using it with bad intentions. The only things I would want to know is, How did he get what appears to be a sword that is not easily available? [All these large knives/zombie knives should be treated as Class A drugs and have heavy sentences for having them] and was he previously known to police or other public services? [Very rarely do people who have problems or are regular offenders get better, they usually get worse and so should be kept from society for longer]. Even if there are failures in the answers to these, I still think it would be very difficult to pin it on any individual but if blame goes to the top then people will. Additionally, if this incident happens next week or next year with another party in charge then it would obviously not be their fault...I guess... It is a bit more complicated than that and I believe that anyone in charge would try do their best to prevent this. |
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Post by Paul on Apr 30, 2024 17:48:44 GMT
Maybe it’s because I lived in Brixton almost my entire life but I don’t feel London is any more or less safe than when I was growing up. Stabbings were regular and shootings felt way more regular than they do now. I find those blaming Khan but not the government either wide of the mark or worse, playing politics by sticking up for one faction based on their past or present political ideology. We all know Khan is poor and shouldn’t be in power but I do think people really do take it overboard and start stretching certain things relating to him The government have a lot to answer for as well. But I live in London and the man in charge has proved time and time again that he isn’t up to the job and, worse, couldn't care less either. He has an agenda and that agenda doesn’t include the concerns of ordinary Londoners |
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Post by joefrombow on Apr 30, 2024 17:51:28 GMT
It's not an excuse, it's an explanation. I’m sure the family of the killer’s 14yo victim will take solace in that ‘explanation’ Genuine question , Had Boris been mayor or Susan Hall would you hold them personally responsible ? We live in a bad world unfortunately , Can the government do more for crime yes ? Can the Government stop every single incident of crime ? Highly unlikely regardless of who is in charge . |
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Post by Paul on Apr 30, 2024 18:08:01 GMT
I’m sure the family of the killer’s 14yo victim will take solace in that ‘explanation’ Genuine question , Had Boris been mayor or Susan Hall would you hold them personally responsible ? We live in a bad world unfortunately , Can the government do more for crime yes ? Can the Government stop every single incident of crime ? Highly unlikely regardless of who is in charge . If they are the ones at the top then yes, they are ultimately the ones to blame. Crime now is rampant - those in charge HAVE to do more but they just don’t seem bothered |
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