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Post by capitalomnibus on Dec 23, 2023 10:29:54 GMT
For TFL Return of NumberA routes ie 2A etc Role out of Superloop style routes not connected to the main Loop ie an Express version of the 142 Bus station redesigns ie Brent Cross or Golders Green TFL declare a fare evasion emergency Review of Night buses and a frequency change to every 20 minutes Non TFL but regional Liverpool Mayor steps up a tendering system similar action is called for in Devon and Cardiff More bus cuts in the South East and South West prompting a response from Government to bing buses into Public Ownership over 4 years. Flix bus starts a new service from London to Douglas (IOM) via Liverpool and another service to Dublin via Bootle Non Transport related
More UK councils declare Bankruptcy (Sadly I see this coming) A civil war somewhere in South America (Potential) Anti Monarchy march in Spain (Potential) Major UK pharmacy shuts more stores (Already shut stores in 2022 and 2023) Major UK school academy goes into administration (Not proven it will) McDonalds introduces spin off CosMcs to UK (If it goes well in the states) McDonald’s makes the Big tasty permanent (So many people want this) Brent Cross bus station split plans are already there and land on the other side of the A406 is earmarked for this. This was to happen when the Shopping complex was to expand to include the bus station. There would have been part of the mall and walkway under the A406 into the bus station. Although with the fall in retail I do not know if these plans more than 10 years old now, would ever come to fruition. As for Mc CosMc's I can easily see that coming here. I love the colours of it. Big tasty was permanent, but they dropped it. It was meant to be the UK's version of the American market Big Extra. Although the Big tasty never had tomato. The Big Tasty is anything but that, it is DISGUSTING and I HATE the sauce. if I was to get it, I would buy if and tell them do NOT put the sauce on it.
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Post by vjaska on Dec 23, 2023 12:17:55 GMT
For TFL Return of NumberA routes ie 2A etc Role out of Superloop style routes not connected to the main Loop ie an Express version of the 142 Bus station redesigns ie Brent Cross or Golders Green TFL declare a fare evasion emergency Review of Night buses and a frequency change to every 20 minutes Non TFL but regional Liverpool Mayor steps up a tendering system similar action is called for in Devon and Cardiff More bus cuts in the South East and South West prompting a response from Government to bing buses into Public Ownership over 4 years. Flix bus starts a new service from London to Douglas (IOM) via Liverpool and another service to Dublin via Bootle Non Transport related
More UK councils declare Bankruptcy (Sadly I see this coming) A civil war somewhere in South America (Potential) Anti Monarchy march in Spain (Potential) Major UK pharmacy shuts more stores (Already shut stores in 2022 and 2023) Major UK school academy goes into administration (Not proven it will) McDonalds introduces spin off CosMcs to UK (If it goes well in the states) McDonald’s makes the Big tasty permanent (So many people want this) Brent Cross bus station split plans are already there and land on the other side of the A406 is earmarked for this. This was to happen when the Shopping complex was to expand to include the bus station. There would have been part of the mall and walkway under the A406 into the bus station. Although with the fall in retail I do not know if these plans more than 10 years old now, would ever come to fruition. As for Mc CosMc's I can easily see that coming here. I love the colours of it. Big tasty was permanent, but they dropped it. It was meant to be the UK's version of the American market Big Extra. Although the Big tasty never had tomato. The Big Tasty is anything but that, it is DISGUSTING and I HATE the sauce. if I was to get it, I would buy if and tell them do NOT put the sauce on it. The Big Tasty wasn’t dropped - it’s rotated in and out over the year and I literally had one earlier this year. Have to disagree that it’s disgusting, really nice burger especially with that sauce and I always get it with the bacon as well
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Post by M1104 on Dec 23, 2023 12:45:30 GMT
118 awarded to Arriva
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Post by VMH2537 on Dec 24, 2023 11:57:50 GMT
I'll give my predictions on what I think will happen in the next year.
1. RATP will officially hand back the 125 with Metroline gaining the route back on tender.
2. RATP will sell their entire operations. I haven't speculated on who could purchase it, though I'll leave it in the air.
3. Sullivan will officially hand back routes 298 and the W9. Both routes will be lost on tender to Metroline from Potters Bar.
4. TfL will review routes 299, 389 and the 399 with some possible route restructurings and service amendments. I'll post my speculation on this later on what possible outcomes it may bring.
5. TfL will consult on proposals for Meridian Water and Southall early next year.
6. Proposals for the W12, W13, W14 and 549 will go ahead as currently proposed. Arguing "the new SL2 will replace direct links from South Woodford to Walthamstow Central".
7. A post implementation review of the Superloop, will also look at duplicated services. Routes 269, 213, 285, 125, EL1, 169, 34 etc.
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Post by britishguy54 on Dec 26, 2023 10:43:29 GMT
Go Ahead acquires the 150, and retains the 5, 15, 115, and N15. Stagecoach acquire the 103 and 175 out of RM, and the 66 out of NS.
Newham will tinker with its bus network some more.
We start hearing more about a revised EL4 in Barking and Dagenham.
The 497 gets extended to Upminster and Ockendon, replacing the 347. The 346 ends up staying as it is.
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Post by TB123 on Dec 26, 2023 22:32:22 GMT
So, i was the creator of this thread and yet I've left it fairly late to post! So here goes in no particular order: For those interested I've linked my previous years predictions below: 2021: tangytango.proboards.com/post/6106552022: tangytango.proboards.com/post/673052Forgot to do 2023 for some reason lol Arriva will pull off a shock win of the SL7, and also retain the upcoming East London tenders in addition to winning the 68/SL6 and 118 Go-Ahead will start to lose some tenders. Abellio/Transport UK will continue their steady growth and pick up some extra routes like the 148, 176, 188, E1 RATP will undergo some degree of change - either a major restructuring or a sale - i wouldn't want to speculate on the ins and outs, but I'd lean towards the latter. I think they will keep the 18 and 94 at tender but perhaps lose the 266 and some smaller routes. More routes will be handed back at break clause - and other operators like Go-Ahead and Sullivans I predict will get in on the act, but it will start to soften towards the year end as routes coming up to anniversary increasingly dwindle given the move to 7-year tenders in 2022. Sadiq Khan will be re-elected, by a healthy margin over Susan Hall and the forum will 'rejoice' at this news (!) Labour will win a majority at the election, again I wouldn't want to predict numbers, but I suspect the Tories will be reduced to just 10-15 seats in Greater London. Joe Biden will re-election against Trump, albeit narrowly. There will be more electric buses specified upon TfL tenders, taking the provisional number of ones ordered/in use to 2-2.5k - I also think we will see at least one batch of buses earmarked for conversion to electrified, possibly some of the 2019/2020 entrant hybrid deckers. I suspect the 2030 date for EVs will be finalised after all, too. The all-new ADL Enviro 100 & 400 will receive their first orders from the TfL market. There will be a dramatically reduced number of orders for the BYD model with these namely being 200EV models for GAL. The £2 national fare cap will be extended again (!), West Yorkshire will go for franchising as everyone expects and other authorities, like West of England, Cambridgeshire and North East will get the ball rolling, too. The ZEBRA2 funding will 'coincidentally' be awarded to areas with marginal Tory-held parliamentary constituencies, bids like Derby, Plymouth, Eastbourne, Scarborough being successful. Or am I too cynical.... The conflict in Ukraine and Gaza will continue and sadly I do not forsee any material changes in either of these scenarios TfL will launch consultations on restructuring buses in other parts of Bromley and Hounslow boroughs as well as Bexley, Havering and Kingston ahead of upcoming tenders in these boroughs come 2025. There will be some smaller-scale frequency increases in outer London and possibly some routes converted over to deckers (95, 165 and 244 strike me as possibles) Superloop is proved to be a success, especially on the higher-density SL1/SL10 corridors and as such an 'SL11' is considered for the 112 corridor. Inflationary challenges will continue in the economy on a similar scale to the tail end of 2023. The Overground lines are named towards the end of 2024. Alstom win the new Croydon tram order tender. National Express will be bought out by, or merge with, another transport group as the falling share price and other financial worries hit them I think that's it....
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Dec 26, 2023 22:46:26 GMT
Sadiq Khan will be re-elected, by a healthy margin over Susan Hall and the forum will 'rejoice' at this news (!) Labour will win a majority at the election, again I wouldn't want to predict numbers, but I suspect the Tories will be reduced to just 10-15 seats in Greater London. I think it'll be a very surprising situation if Khan doesn't win re-election. While his policies are questionable I am not going to burn my vote on someone who has no chance of winning and I will not vote Tory simply because they're almost certainly going to be worse in every respect if the Central government is anything to go by. I don't like Khan but I'd rather vote for him than let any Tory near City Hall. If Susan Hall however was to review TfL staff's fringe benefits however... I think 15 seats for the Tories in Greater London is being generous, I don't see Labour having a huge revolution here but the LibDems could potentially cause a lot of damage to some Tory areas. Particularly those in South London, I see Bexleyheath and Bromley areas remaining Tory and probably Upminster and Hornchurch as well, but I think Romford for example might actually be a goner for the Tories this time.
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Post by LD71YLO (BE37054) on Dec 27, 2023 8:08:11 GMT
Arriva will pull off a shock win of the SL7, and also retain the upcoming East London tenders in addition to winning the 68/SL6 and 118 Go-Ahead will start to lose some tenders. Abellio/Transport UK will continue their steady growth and pick up some extra routes like the 148, 176, 188, E1 RATP will undergo some degree of change - either a major restructuring or a sale - i wouldn't want to speculate on the ins and outs, but I'd lean towards the latter. I think they will keep the 18 and 94 at tender but perhaps lose the 266 and some smaller routes. More routes will be handed back at break clause - and other operators like Go-Ahead and Sullivans I predict will get in on the act, but it will start to soften towards the year end as routes coming up to anniversary increasingly dwindle given the move to 7-year tenders in 2022. The all-new ADL Enviro 100 & 400 will receive their first orders from the TfL market. There will be a dramatically reduced number of orders for the BYD model with these namely being 200EV models for GAL. TfL will launch consultations on restructuring buses in other parts of Bromley and Hounslow boroughs as well as Bexley, Havering and Kingston ahead of upcoming tenders in these boroughs come 2025. There will be some smaller-scale frequency increases in outer London and possibly some routes converted over to deckers (95, 165 and 244 strike me as possibles) Superloop is proved to be a success, especially on the higher-density SL1/SL10 corridors and as such an 'SL11' is considered for the 112 corridor. Honestly I quite like your London bus related predictions. I'm leaning towards tenders starting to swing in favour of Arriva and against GAL but would be very surprised to see the latter hand back routes. Also I'd be surprised to see the 188 lost - space issues at WL would mean I'd even be surprised to see it receive a bid from Abellio/TUK. Regarding your SL11, would you envisage it running beyond Ealing or just between Ealing and North Finchley? Finally, what changes do you envisage being made as part of the consultations that you predict happening?
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Post by capitalomnibus on Dec 30, 2023 7:45:36 GMT
So, i was the creator of this thread and yet I've left it fairly late to post! So here goes in no particular order: For those interested I've linked my previous years predictions below: 2021: tangytango.proboards.com/post/6106552022: tangytango.proboards.com/post/673052Forgot to do 2023 for some reason lol Arriva will pull off a shock win of the SL7, and also retain the upcoming East London tenders in addition to winning the 68/SL6 and 118 Go-Ahead will start to lose some tenders. Abellio/Transport UK will continue their steady growth and pick up some extra routes like the 148, 176, 188, E1 RATP will undergo some degree of change - either a major restructuring or a sale - i wouldn't want to speculate on the ins and outs, but I'd lean towards the latter. I think they will keep the 18 and 94 at tender but perhaps lose the 266 and some smaller routes. More routes will be handed back at break clause - and other operators like Go-Ahead and Sullivans I predict will get in on the act, but it will start to soften towards the year end as routes coming up to anniversary increasingly dwindle given the move to 7-year tenders in 2022. Sadiq Khan will be re-elected, by a healthy margin over Susan Hall and the forum will 'rejoice' at this news (!)Labour will win a majority at the election, again I wouldn't want to predict numbers, but I suspect the Tories will be reduced to just 10-15 seats in Greater London. Joe Biden will re-election against Trump, albeit narrowly. There will be more electric buses specified upon TfL tenders, taking the provisional number of ones ordered/in use to 2-2.5k - I also think we will see at least one batch of buses earmarked for conversion to electrified, possibly some of the 2019/2020 entrant hybrid deckers. I suspect the 2030 date for EVs will be finalised after all, too. The all-new ADL Enviro 100 & 400 will receive their first orders from the TfL market. There will be a dramatically reduced number of orders for the BYD model with these namely being 200EV models for GAL. The £2 national fare cap will be extended again (!), West Yorkshire will go for franchising as everyone expects and other authorities, like West of England, Cambridgeshire and North East will get the ball rolling, too. The ZEBRA2 funding will 'coincidentally' be awarded to areas with marginal Tory-held parliamentary constituencies, bids like Derby, Plymouth, Eastbourne, Scarborough being successful. Or am I too cynical.... The conflict in Ukraine and Gaza will continue and sadly I do not forsee any material changes in either of these scenarios TfL will launch consultations on restructuring buses in other parts of Bromley and Hounslow boroughs as well as Bexley, Havering and Kingston ahead of upcoming tenders in these boroughs come 2025. There will be some smaller-scale frequency increases in outer London and possibly some routes converted over to deckers (95, 165 and 244 strike me as possibles) Superloop is proved to be a success, especially on the higher-density SL1/SL10 corridors and as such an 'SL11' is considered for the 112 corridor. Inflationary challenges will continue in the economy on a similar scale to the tail end of 2023. The Overground lines are named towards the end of 2024. Alstom win the new Croydon tram order tender. National Express will be bought out by, or merge with, another transport group as the falling share price and other financial worries hit them I think that's it.... Your Labour party wild optimisim over Khan winning a healthy win over Susan Hall. I still cannot see Trump getting elected, so Biden has a clear win imo.
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Post by southlondon413 on Dec 30, 2023 10:16:05 GMT
So, i was the creator of this thread and yet I've left it fairly late to post! So here goes in no particular order: For those interested I've linked my previous years predictions below: 2021: tangytango.proboards.com/post/6106552022: tangytango.proboards.com/post/673052Forgot to do 2023 for some reason lol Arriva will pull off a shock win of the SL7, and also retain the upcoming East London tenders in addition to winning the 68/SL6 and 118 Go-Ahead will start to lose some tenders. Abellio/Transport UK will continue their steady growth and pick up some extra routes like the 148, 176, 188, E1 RATP will undergo some degree of change - either a major restructuring or a sale - i wouldn't want to speculate on the ins and outs, but I'd lean towards the latter. I think they will keep the 18 and 94 at tender but perhaps lose the 266 and some smaller routes. More routes will be handed back at break clause - and other operators like Go-Ahead and Sullivans I predict will get in on the act, but it will start to soften towards the year end as routes coming up to anniversary increasingly dwindle given the move to 7-year tenders in 2022. Sadiq Khan will be re-elected, by a healthy margin over Susan Hall and the forum will 'rejoice' at this news (!)Labour will win a majority at the election, again I wouldn't want to predict numbers, but I suspect the Tories will be reduced to just 10-15 seats in Greater London. Joe Biden will re-election against Trump, albeit narrowly. There will be more electric buses specified upon TfL tenders, taking the provisional number of ones ordered/in use to 2-2.5k - I also think we will see at least one batch of buses earmarked for conversion to electrified, possibly some of the 2019/2020 entrant hybrid deckers. I suspect the 2030 date for EVs will be finalised after all, too. The all-new ADL Enviro 100 & 400 will receive their first orders from the TfL market. There will be a dramatically reduced number of orders for the BYD model with these namely being 200EV models for GAL. The £2 national fare cap will be extended again (!), West Yorkshire will go for franchising as everyone expects and other authorities, like West of England, Cambridgeshire and North East will get the ball rolling, too. The ZEBRA2 funding will 'coincidentally' be awarded to areas with marginal Tory-held parliamentary constituencies, bids like Derby, Plymouth, Eastbourne, Scarborough being successful. Or am I too cynical.... The conflict in Ukraine and Gaza will continue and sadly I do not forsee any material changes in either of these scenarios TfL will launch consultations on restructuring buses in other parts of Bromley and Hounslow boroughs as well as Bexley, Havering and Kingston ahead of upcoming tenders in these boroughs come 2025. There will be some smaller-scale frequency increases in outer London and possibly some routes converted over to deckers (95, 165 and 244 strike me as possibles) Superloop is proved to be a success, especially on the higher-density SL1/SL10 corridors and as such an 'SL11' is considered for the 112 corridor. Inflationary challenges will continue in the economy on a similar scale to the tail end of 2023. The Overground lines are named towards the end of 2024. Alstom win the new Croydon tram order tender. National Express will be bought out by, or merge with, another transport group as the falling share price and other financial worries hit them I think that's it.... Your Labour party wild optimisim over Khan winning a healthy win over Susan Hall. I still cannot see Trump getting elected, so Biden has a clear win imo. I predict Biden will win but he will become the 9th US president to die in office. Giving Kamala Harris the second president of colour and the first woman president. She will then serve two terms and become the USs most successful president since Clinton.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Dec 30, 2023 10:31:29 GMT
Your Labour party wild optimisim over Khan winning a healthy win over Susan Hall. I still cannot see Trump getting elected, so Biden has a clear win imo. I predict Biden will win but he will become the 9th US president to die in office. Giving Kamala Harris the second president of colour and the first woman president. She will then serve two terms and become the USs most successful president since Clinton. lol at the most successful president since Clinton. I would say Obama has been more successful. I very much doubt Harris would be the best thing since sliced bread.
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Post by southlondon413 on Dec 30, 2023 10:39:47 GMT
I predict Biden will win but he will become the 9th US president to die in office. Giving Kamala Harris the second president of colour and the first woman president. She will then serve two terms and become the USs most successful president since Clinton. lol at the most successful president since Clinton. I would say Obama has been more successful. I very much doubt Harris would be the best thing since sliced bread. Clinton may have been marked with a huge scandal at the end but in his two terms he did far more for the American economy than anyone in recent history before and after him. He was tough on crime, although disproportionately affecting people of colour and his foreign policy was fairly good. Clinton leaned towards the centre so he had appeal from both side, he also took far more states than Obama did at his elections. I’d say they were both good presidents but Clinton just edges it out, although Obama did a lot for the inner city youths of America which had long been dragged down by persistent underfunded schools and gun crime.
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Post by TB123 on Dec 30, 2023 10:45:24 GMT
So, i was the creator of this thread and yet I've left it fairly late to post! So here goes in no particular order: For those interested I've linked my previous years predictions below: 2021: tangytango.proboards.com/post/6106552022: tangytango.proboards.com/post/673052Forgot to do 2023 for some reason lol Arriva will pull off a shock win of the SL7, and also retain the upcoming East London tenders in addition to winning the 68/SL6 and 118 Go-Ahead will start to lose some tenders. Abellio/Transport UK will continue their steady growth and pick up some extra routes like the 148, 176, 188, E1 RATP will undergo some degree of change - either a major restructuring or a sale - i wouldn't want to speculate on the ins and outs, but I'd lean towards the latter. I think they will keep the 18 and 94 at tender but perhaps lose the 266 and some smaller routes. More routes will be handed back at break clause - and other operators like Go-Ahead and Sullivans I predict will get in on the act, but it will start to soften towards the year end as routes coming up to anniversary increasingly dwindle given the move to 7-year tenders in 2022. Sadiq Khan will be re-elected, by a healthy margin over Susan Hall and the forum will 'rejoice' at this news (!)Labour will win a majority at the election, again I wouldn't want to predict numbers, but I suspect the Tories will be reduced to just 10-15 seats in Greater London. Joe Biden will re-election against Trump, albeit narrowly. There will be more electric buses specified upon TfL tenders, taking the provisional number of ones ordered/in use to 2-2.5k - I also think we will see at least one batch of buses earmarked for conversion to electrified, possibly some of the 2019/2020 entrant hybrid deckers. I suspect the 2030 date for EVs will be finalised after all, too. The all-new ADL Enviro 100 & 400 will receive their first orders from the TfL market. There will be a dramatically reduced number of orders for the BYD model with these namely being 200EV models for GAL. The £2 national fare cap will be extended again (!), West Yorkshire will go for franchising as everyone expects and other authorities, like West of England, Cambridgeshire and North East will get the ball rolling, too. The ZEBRA2 funding will 'coincidentally' be awarded to areas with marginal Tory-held parliamentary constituencies, bids like Derby, Plymouth, Eastbourne, Scarborough being successful. Or am I too cynical.... The conflict in Ukraine and Gaza will continue and sadly I do not forsee any material changes in either of these scenarios TfL will launch consultations on restructuring buses in other parts of Bromley and Hounslow boroughs as well as Bexley, Havering and Kingston ahead of upcoming tenders in these boroughs come 2025. There will be some smaller-scale frequency increases in outer London and possibly some routes converted over to deckers (95, 165 and 244 strike me as possibles) Superloop is proved to be a success, especially on the higher-density SL1/SL10 corridors and as such an 'SL11' is considered for the 112 corridor. Inflationary challenges will continue in the economy on a similar scale to the tail end of 2023. The Overground lines are named towards the end of 2024. Alstom win the new Croydon tram order tender. National Express will be bought out by, or merge with, another transport group as the falling share price and other financial worries hit them I think that's it.... Your Labour party wild optimisim over Khan winning a healthy win over Susan Hall. I still cannot see Trump getting elected, so Biden has a clear win imo. The recent opinion polls put Khan 25 points ahead of Hall. Whilst that I don't think is realistic, a solid 5-10 points victory seems a likely outcome. I sure hope Biden wins again. I think he's done a pretty good job in the circumstances. Democrats just like Clinton or Obama, always do a better job than Republicans who leave a mess for Democrats to sort out.
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Post by MKAY315 on Dec 30, 2023 12:52:55 GMT
2024 predictions. I'm going to say that I think City will drop the title to one of the other teams. I said City won't retain the title right at the beginning of the season and I will stick to it.
A lot more smash and grab wins for the smaller teams in the Premier league against the big guns.
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Post by DE20106 on Jan 1, 2024 10:09:12 GMT
I think it’s worth mentioning (as loads of people predicted that we would be) that we probably won’t be seeing many routes terminating early this year. Because of the new fixed 7 year contracts which started in April ‘22, reliable sources say that these are terminable at 4 years which means it should be be next year before we hear about operators wanting to pass routes back to TfL early. So any routes being thrown back this year will highly likely only be between now and March, names ones which have contract dates between January ‘22 and March ‘22.
Hopefully as the year goes on this will give TfL less of a headache trying to catch up on additional tenders that keep getting piled on top of them.
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