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Post by snoggle on Aug 6, 2013 11:41:51 GMT
Routes 9 and 390 are to be converted to NB4L operation. Londonist pageNo TfL press release visible yet. |
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Post by westhamgeezer on Aug 6, 2013 11:52:06 GMT
Route 9 not a surprise to me, but the 390 is. Also article suggests both by the end of the year which I am surprised about
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Post by LX09FBJ on Aug 6, 2013 11:52:53 GMT
Routes 9 and 390 are to be converted to NB4L operation. Londonist pageNo TfL press release visible yet. From TfL's NB4L page: Although a waste of money IMHO (VWHs/WHVs/ADHs etc would have saved more money) but I am starting to like this bus and at least its nice to see that London United will get some! Looks like some more double deck workings on the 391 could happen, as the OVs are sent off for refurbs. |
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Post by M1104 on Aug 6, 2013 12:10:06 GMT
I hope Heritage Route 9H remains after the conversion.
At the moment the routes chosen appear to be ones that barely run out of central London, making me wonder if the 19, 88 and 139 may be future candidates, them having the majority of the route in the old bus zone 1. It is almost inevitable that a Borisbus route will go up Regent Street.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2013 12:11:31 GMT
Route 9 not a surprise to me, but the 390 is. Also article suggests both by the end of the year which I am surprised about Big air quality focus on Oxford Street, which the 390 pretty much runs the entire length of |
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Post by westhamgeezer on Aug 6, 2013 12:18:36 GMT
I hope Heritage Route 9H remains after the conversion. At the moment the routes chosen appear to be ones that barely run out of central London, making me wonder if the 88 may be a future candidate.... bearing in mind that it is somewhat parallels route 24. I dont see the 9H changing any time soon. All speculation on future routes, I would expect something like the 14 to be one of the next few |
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Post by LX09FBJ on Aug 6, 2013 12:26:58 GMT
Route 9 not a surprise to me, but the 390 is. Also article suggests both by the end of the year which I am surprised about Big air quality focus on Oxford Street, which the 390 pretty much runs the entire length of TfL I reckon are now starting to focus on the 'old' bus high profile routes (9/11/390 all have B7TLs on them) Other routes include the AF routes (except 85 and 430), 6 and 98, part of the 94, 137 and 159 (but that can't take NB4Ls) I have a suspicion that the 15 will be converted, and the 12xxx used on a lower profile route, such as 205. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2013 12:28:31 GMT
I hope Heritage Route 9H remains after the conversion. At the moment the routes chosen appear to be ones that barely run out of central London, making me wonder if the 88 and 139 may be a future candidates, them having the majority of the route in the old bus zone 1. It is almost inevitable that a Borisbus route will go up Regent Street. The 6 or 98 both run right through Central London and have old-ish buses like the 390 so maybe strong future candidates. Aside those two I'm reckoning the 15, 23, or 88. |
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Post by M1104 on Aug 6, 2013 12:29:30 GMT
I hope Heritage Route 9H remains after the conversion. At the moment the routes chosen appear to be ones that barely run out of central London, making me wonder if the 88 may be a future candidate.... bearing in mind that it is somewhat parallels route 24. I dont see the 9H changing any time soon. All speculation on future routes, I would expect something like the 14 to be one of the next few Yes, that and/or the 22. I also reckon the 137 may be a possibility as another south London reaching route, at least more possible than the 159 which I reckon will more likely be HV hybrid over the LTs. |
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Post by smiler52 on Aug 6, 2013 12:34:12 GMT
I thought the 9 was rewarded only last year with existing buses
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Post by M1104 on Aug 6, 2013 12:37:41 GMT
I thought the 9 was rewarded only last year with existing buses The 24 was awarded with new buses, but still got converted from those new buses to LTs. |
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Post by smiler52 on Aug 6, 2013 12:38:42 GMT
I thought the 9 was rewarded only last year with existing buses The 24 was awarded with new buses, but still got converted from those new buses to LTs. forgot about that its just a waste of money |
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Post by westhamgeezer on Aug 6, 2013 12:45:34 GMT
The 24 was awarded with new buses, but still got converted from those new buses to LTs. forgot about that its just a waste of money If they are new-ish buses though, they are likely to be cascaded to other routes replacing older buses so not too much of a waste. Any ideas on whether the N11 will use LT's as its operated with buses from the 11?? |
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Post by LX09FBJ on Aug 6, 2013 12:45:53 GMT
I hope Heritage Route 9H remains after the conversion. At the moment the routes chosen appear to be ones that barely run out of central London, making me wonder if the 88 and 139 may be a future candidates, them having the majority of the route in the old bus zone 1. It is almost inevitable that a Borisbus route will go up Regent Street. The 6 or 98 both run right through Central London and have old-ish buses like the 390 so maybe strong future candidates. Aside those two I'm reckoning the 15, 23, or 88. 23 not impossible but quite unlikely (although DNs/DNHs could go to LI, in exchange for some VNs for X/AS) 88 I reckon won't be converted, as it isn't a 'Gold Frame' service and only just got EHs a couple of months ago, but then again the same thing happened to the 24. C2 is also a good-ish candidate go to NB4L operation as well (runs with diesel buses and is 'gold framed') Gold frame routes are the buses with yellowy-gold adframes (except the 482) |
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Post by M1104 on Aug 6, 2013 13:08:17 GMT
The 6 or 98 both run right through Central London and have old-ish buses like the 390 so maybe strong future candidates. Aside those two I'm reckoning the 15, 23, or 88. 23 not impossible but quite unlikely (although DNs/DNHs could go to LI, in exchange for some VNs for X/AS) 88 I reckon won't be converted, as it isn't a 'Gold Frame' service and only just got EHs a couple of months ago, but then again the same thing happened to the 24. C2 is also a good-ish candidate go to NB4L operation as well (runs with diesel buses and is 'gold framed') Gold frame routes are the buses with yellowy-gold adframes (except the 482) It's been posted on another thread that the 10m E400s often get stuck (or difficulties at the least) on the C2 between Green Park Station and Regent Street, due to parked cars. Therefore the 11m LTs will have no chance at night unless strict enforcement is in place along the relevant streets. |
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