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Post by vjaska on Apr 28, 2016 22:19:03 GMT
So much dislike for the 73s ... I am probably biased as it's my local line but 73s come a very close second in my best 'tube' stock, right behind the much loved 72s! Though on the later I will only ever travel in the front, middle or rear cars for the transverse seating! That said I actually enjoy riding on the 73 stock, though judging by previous comments, I must be delirious   I've just never really liked them - they look really scruffy and I find the seats quite uncomfortable especially when I've had to pick someone up from Heathrow and return to Brixton - they're on a par with the 95 stock as my least favourite. I do really like the 72 though and I'm very happy that they are sticking around as I was very fond of the 67 stock on the Victoria Line. My favourite is the 92 stock - I just love the noise they make when accelerating and are fast as well. |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2016 23:16:00 GMT
I preferred the Piccadilly Line trains when they had the original interior. Some of the seats seemed to be hollow I recall. The service to Heathrow seemed much better then as well. Now there's often ten minute gaps in service, ridiculous.
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Post by snoggle on Jul 1, 2016 12:31:17 GMT
After months and months of purdah we now have TfL meetings restarting under the new Mayoralty. New TfL approval paper for the Bakerloo Line fleet refresh. Timetable to be reduced to take a train out of the run out to allow 2 trains to be worked on at once. This will also bring forward the completion date of the work. content.tfl.gov.uk/fpc-160708-14-bakerloo.pdf |
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Post by snoggle on Aug 1, 2016 12:18:21 GMT
Seems the escalator works at Paddington Station have completed a little earlier than planned meaning access to the line there has been restored.
Also, on the Central Line, Holland Park station has reopened after lift and refurbishment works.
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Post by twobellstogo on Aug 1, 2016 12:43:51 GMT
Seems the escalator works at Paddington Station have completed a little earlier than planned meaning access to the line there has been restored.. Thanks for that, snoggle. I'm going to Paddington tonight  |
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Post by routew15 on Feb 9, 2017 10:38:27 GMT
A new Bakerloo Line consultation has launched today Bakerloo Line consultation
This consultation indicates where the stations and shafts are likely to stand along the route |
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Post by vjaska on Feb 9, 2017 11:23:37 GMT
A new Bakerloo Line consultation has launched today Bakerloo Line consultation
This consultation indicates where the stations and shafts are likely to stand along the route I still think they're missing a trick by not running via Camberwell & Peckham - there has always been plans for an extension to Camberwell as well as reinstating a railway station and both are not happening. Surely the Bakerloo could branch into two different lines at Elephant - the Old Kent Road one following the plans and the Camberwell one terminating at Peckham or even Nunhead? |
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Post by routew15 on Feb 9, 2017 14:54:00 GMT
A new Bakerloo Line consultation has launched today Bakerloo Line consultation
This consultation indicates where the stations and shafts are likely to stand along the route I still think they're missing a trick by not running via Camberwell & Peckham - there has always been plans for an extension to Camberwell as well as reinstating a railway station and both are not happening. Surely the Bakerloo could branch into two different lines at Elephant - the Old Kent Road one following the plans and the Camberwell one terminating at Peckham or even Nunhead? They definitely are. But as with all these new projects as you know it's first about how much new housing can you unlock along the line of route and consideration is sometimes given to what existing Transport problems you can solved The Old Kent Road has a lot of demand already for Public transport and if the Mayors office builds there uber tall snazzy skyscrapers then there will be even more demand for tranpsport along there. It's a shame nothing came of the Camberwell Thameslink Station especially seeing as Thameslink services are planed to be boasted soon. Although Bakerloo Line from E&C to Walworth Camberwell Brixton and Streatham would of been much more interesting i think |
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Post by M1104 on Aug 11, 2017 10:01:43 GMT
Evacuation from Oxford Circus Station in relation to a smokey Bakerloo Line train, cause being an electrical fault under a carriage. www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-40897094Four people treated for smoke inhalation with two others taken to hospital as a precaution. Station has since been fully reopened with all trains stopping. |
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Post by ADH45258 on Nov 18, 2017 10:11:56 GMT
Just realised how similar the 1967 stock were to the 1972 stock. The 1972 are only 5 years newer, but still in service 45 years later. Is there a reason why the 2009 stock were ordered for the Victoria Line, but not for the Bakerloo Line as well (or even for the Piccadilly to replace the 1973 stock)?
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Post by snowman on Nov 18, 2017 10:40:00 GMT
Just realised how similar the 1967 stock were to the 1972 stock. The 1972 are only 5 years newer, but still in service 45 years later. Is there a reason why the 2009 stock were ordered for the Victoria Line, but not for the Bakerloo Line as well (or even for the Piccadilly to replace the 1973 stock)? The 1972 stock was basically a continuation of the 1967 stock design, but with manual control and some 3 car units (to make 7 cars), I have a vague recollection the little used uncoupling end of the 3 car used second hand control gear from 1930s stock The new Victoria line trains were built slightly larger, the tunnels are bit bigger to reduce air resistance. The Bakerloo tunnels are smaller diameter (and some sections had an inner lining) so needs a more restricted design. The Victoria line trains had been worked more intensively (for much of the 1970s and 1980s, Bakerloo off-peak was a less frequent service so mileage ran was less which probably influenced the replacement decision. |
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Post by snoggle on Nov 18, 2017 11:38:31 GMT
Just realised how similar the 1967 stock were to the 1972 stock. The 1972 are only 5 years newer, but still in service 45 years later. Is there a reason why the 2009 stock were ordered for the Victoria Line, but not for the Bakerloo Line as well (or even for the Piccadilly to replace the 1973 stock)? Just to add to what Snowman said. LU did a lot of review work to create Asset Management Strategies for all asset areas. This then helped inform the sequence of line upgrades which were incorporated into the PPP contracts. The Bakerloo Line was never at the front of the BCV upgrades and LU had to put in place a sequence of works that worked across the network otherwise you end up with a massive overlap of engineering works that prevent people travelling in London. The Victoria Line was and is vastly busier than the Bakerloo so its upgrade came early in the overall sequence. The collapse of the Metronet contracts meant a lot of work returned "in house" with the Vic Line upgrade remaining in pole position. LU then completely cocked up the Sub Surface resignalling contract which wasted hundreds of millions of pounds blowing a massive hole and delay in the overall programme of upgrades. To be honest I will be enormously surprised if the Bakerloo Line ever gets to the front of the upgrade programme. The only thing that may prove a salvation for the Bakerloo Line is if the Lewisham extension proceeds. It is also worth saying that a lot of LU engineers hated the choice of the 09 stock. They have been "in love" with the idea of the "space train" or at least some idea of their own design of "new tube train". Having something imposed by a private consortium stuck in the throat which is why we have been through "New Tube for London" which has morphed into "Deep Tube Upgrade Programme". One day someone might actually get round to authorising some money to get the Picc Line upgrade which is now running about 15 years later than originally planned. Sorry if I sound a little grumpy but the history of the upgrade programme is not exactly LU's best ever performance. I can, though, be slightly smug that at least the Vic Line has got its full upgrade and we have a very good service level. However one success doesn't compensate for all the woes and problems stacking up elsewhere on the network. |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Nov 26, 2017 20:26:37 GMT
A new Bakerloo Line consultation has launched today Bakerloo Line consultation
This consultation indicates where the stations and shafts are likely to stand along the route I still think they're missing a trick by not running via Camberwell & Peckham - there has always been plans for an extension to Camberwell as well as reinstating a railway station and both are not happening. Surely the Bakerloo could branch into two different lines at Elephant - the Old Kent Road one following the plans and the Camberwell one terminating at Peckham or even Nunhead? I think Camberwell is the most conspicuous area of London not to have a National Rail or Underground station. It seems a waste that Thameslink pass nearby but with no station there. |
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Post by snowman on Sept 12, 2018 14:31:52 GMT
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Post by M1104 on Sept 11, 2019 9:51:28 GMT
Interesting training video below regarding the London Road Depot and the edited tunnel route to and from it. One thing I read from the comments is that there were appearantly plans to utilise redundant 72 stock onto the Waterloo and City line so as to release those newer trains to the Central Line. If you're a train/tube buff it's worth subscribing to this poster for the videos and comments. youtu.be/9FtZ5nr9xOI |
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