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Post by enviroPB on May 30, 2016 23:50:18 GMT
I would certainly like improvements on frequency of the 47 on weekdays and weekends. It's shocking to be frankly honest how an important central london route has quite poor frequencies, it maybe roughly a 10mins wait according to timetable but drivers spend so much time at TL garage, gaps are often 13-15mins and this seems like a norm. Such route can do with a PVR increase especially the roadworks and diversions along the route Finally 208 can go from a frequency increase from 12mins to 8mins in my opinion 358 can also see better frequency from 12-15mins i believe to 10mins With contracts renewed recently for both routes 35 and 47, it is rather shocking that daytime frequencies for both routes hasn't been addressed. In my opinion, I believe both Shoreditch routes should receive a separate timetable for Fridays (M-T, F, S-S). The key difference will be evenings where services on both routes will be upped to x12; there may even be scope for a 10 min headway for the 35. The 47 needs to be every 20 minutes on weekends; with the Night Tube not touching the Shoreditch area & not covering much of SE London generally, there will be no ease up to the 47's use at weekend nights. As for both routes 35 & 47, they shouldn't have to jostle for one of 2 stand positions in the bus cage and should see it extended. |
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Post by portman227 on May 31, 2016 0:05:08 GMT
I would certainly like improvements on frequency of the 47 on weekdays and weekends. It's shocking to be frankly honest how an important central london route has quite poor frequencies, it maybe roughly a 10mins wait according to timetable but drivers spend so much time at TL garage, gaps are often 13-15mins and this seems like a norm. Such route can do with a PVR increase especially the roadworks and diversions along the route Finally 208 can go from a frequency increase from 12mins to 8mins in my opinion 358 can also see better frequency from 12-15mins i believe to 10mins With contracts renewed recently for both routes 35 and 47, it is rather shocking that daytime frequencies for both routes hasn't been addressed. In my opinion, I believe both Shoreditch routes should receive a separate timetable for Fridays (M-T, F, S-S). The key difference will be evenings where services on both routes will be upped to x12; there may even be scope for a 10 min headway for the 35. The 47 needs to be every 20 minutes on weekends; with the Night Tube not touching the Shoreditch area & not covering much of SE London generally, there will be no ease up to the 47's use at weekend nights. As for both routes 35 & 47, they shouldn't have to jostle for one of 2 stand positions in the bus cage and should see it extended. Shouldn't have to wait that long for both of those routes, and weekend nights, i agree, 47 should have a frequency increase as shoreditch is a hotspot. 35 and 47 need a proper stand space, they block literally the taxi ranks and make pulling up very difficult. 78 uses a far more convenient stand |
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Post by sid on May 31, 2016 5:43:48 GMT
I would certainly like improvements on frequency of the 47 on weekdays and weekends. It's shocking to be frankly honest how an important central london route has quite poor frequencies, it maybe roughly a 10mins wait according to timetable but drivers spend so much time at TL garage, gaps are often 13-15mins and this seems like a norm. Such route can do with a PVR increase especially the roadworks and diversions along the route Finally 208 can go from a frequency increase from 12mins to 8mins in my opinion 358 can also see better frequency from 12-15mins i believe to 10mins I don't think the 208 needs a frequency increase just something better than the 320 to support it and it's a shame that the original idea of extending the 199 to Bromley never went ahead. I would think the 358 is about right as it is quite honestly. |
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2016 18:38:49 GMT
I guess with routes like the B14 being so infrequent especially late evening at every 60 minutes. Passengers would choose a more frequent route or drive as Snoggle suggest. Like the idea of the 351 route between Bexleyheath and Orpington.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Jun 1, 2016 15:22:48 GMT
176 - late evenings and Sundays to every 10 minutes.
185 - every 8 minutes until end of service, 10 on Sunday.
197 - Every 10 minutes daytime, 15 evenings and Sundays.
356 - 15 mins Mon/Sat, 20 evenings and Sundays.
The P4 has been suggested as every 10 minutes, but if they keep the same length of vehicle, I'd go for 8 minutes Mon/Sat all day. 10/12 on Sunday.
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Post by COBO on Jun 1, 2016 20:26:42 GMT
113 - Increased from every 10 mins to every 7-8 minutes daytime and increased from every 20 minutes to every 12 minutes on Sunday. I don't know why route that goes to Central London has such low frequencies.
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Post by COBO on Jun 2, 2016 23:58:18 GMT
H17 - Increased from every 15 mins to every 12 minutes during the daytime.
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Post by COBO on Jun 5, 2016 1:09:31 GMT
105 - Increased from every 10 mins to every 8 mins daytime.
120 - Increased from every 10 minus to every 8 mins daytime.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 13:11:36 GMT
The 105 and all the Heathrow routes should be adjusted so they fit in with the abnormal peak hours here. 5-6am is a very busy time, as is 1pm-3pm and 9pm-11pm.
Heathrow also needs a night link to Uxbridge, diverting the 222 via the Central Bus Station during the night would solve this.
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Post by COBO on Jun 10, 2016 13:42:50 GMT
The 105 and all the Heathrow routes should be adjusted so they fit in with the abnormal peak hours here. 5-6am is a very busy time, as is 1pm-3pm and 9pm-11pm. Heathrow also needs a night link to Uxbridge, diverting the 222 via the Central Bus Station during the night would solve this. Or convert the U3 into a 24 hour service. |
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Post by ibus246 on Jun 17, 2016 13:04:37 GMT
I always thought it strange that the 685 only has an afternoon service - judging by how busy it is (full) I'm sure a morning service would be welcomed.
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Post by COBO on Jul 6, 2016 5:28:47 GMT
258: from every 15 minutes to every 12 minutes during Monday to Saturday daytime.
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Post by planesandtrains on Jul 6, 2016 14:49:30 GMT
490: Morning frequency increase to every 6 min or morning DD working + converted to 24 hour operation
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Post by TB141 on Jul 15, 2016 8:52:15 GMT
I would certainly like improvements on frequency of the 47 on weekdays and weekends. It's shocking to be frankly honest how an important central london route has quite poor frequencies, it maybe roughly a 10mins wait according to timetable but drivers spend so much time at TL garage, gaps are often 13-15mins and this seems like a norm. Such route can do with a PVR increase especially the roadworks and diversions along the route Finally 208 can go from a frequency increase from 12mins to 8mins in my opinion 358 can also see better frequency from 12-15mins i believe to 10mins I don't think the 208 needs a frequency increase just something better than the 320 to support it and it's a shame that the original idea of extending the 199 to Bromley never went ahead. I would think the 358 is about right as it is quite honestly. Quick look at the schedules for both routes, the weekday off peak departures from Catford, Bromley Road for both routes are as follows. 320 - 01 13 25 37 49 208 - 04 16 28 40 52 How's that for poor planning? Two routes covering the same section between Catford and Bromley at 12 minute headway, one scheduled for 3 minutes before the other. |
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Post by TB141 on Jul 15, 2016 8:53:36 GMT
And yet all the posh folk in Albany Park and Bexley Village get a bus every 10 minutes carrying fresh air.
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