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Post by busoccultation on Feb 22, 2018 17:59:58 GMT
Route 485 Evening Service Plus Sunday Service introduced There are currently plans to introduce Evening and Sunday service along with Monday to Saturday Daytime frequency increase to every 15 minutes - consultations.tfl.gov.uk/buses/485-283/ |
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Post by COBO on Feb 22, 2018 18:03:36 GMT
Merge routes H9 and H10 together. Route 481 Evening Service introduced Route 485 Evening Service Plus Sunday Service introduced Route 397 Evening Service introduced Buses will Terminate at Chingford Mount after 10.20pm Route 521 Weekend Service introduced Route 437 Limited Service Withdrawn given full service Route 166 Evening and Sunday Service Extended to serve Epsom General Hospital Route K4 Sunday Service introduced Route K5 Evening and Sunday Service introduced Route U10 Evening and Sunday Service introduced How would you merge the H9/H10? How would differentiate the Clockwise direction and the Anti Clockwise direction? |
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Post by RandomBusesGirl on Feb 23, 2018 13:14:24 GMT
Route 437 Limited Service Withdrawn given full service 437?! What one is that? Also, forget all of these bar 485* as TfL are skint and also many of these are lightly used. Although myself I would find evening & sunday K5 + 481 quite handy. * And possibly 166 but we're yet to see. |
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Post by vjaska on Feb 23, 2018 13:28:51 GMT
Route 437 Limited Service Withdrawn given full service 437?! What one is that? Also, forget all of these bar 485* as TfL are skint and also many of these are lightly used. Although myself I would find evening & sunday K5 + 481 quite handy. * And possibly 166 but we're yet to see. The 166 won’t get an evening or Sunday service to the hospital in the current climate - it’s current service has been safeguarded for the next 5 years but I wouldn’t expect anything extra. |
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Post by londonbuses2018 on Mar 21, 2018 14:51:11 GMT
The routes I would Extended if I was running TFL.
316 to Brent Cross
32 Routed to serve Brent Cross Shopping Centre via 142
52 Extended to Harlesden (This would allow other operators to bid in future)
139 Routed to serve Aldwych as well.
113 Extended to Trafalgar Square (in my opinion better than Marble Arch since TS has got more facilities for drivers such as toilets)
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Post by COBO on Mar 21, 2018 18:14:10 GMT
The routes I would Extended if I was running TFL. 316 to Brent Cross 32 Routed to serve Brent Cross Shopping Centre via 14252 Extended to Harlesden (This would allow other operators to bid in future) 139 Routed to serve Aldwych as well. 113 Extended to Trafalgar Square (in my opinion better than Marble Arch since TS has got more facilities for drivers such as toilets) Standing at Willesden garage won’t stop other companies from bidding for the 52. |
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Post by redexpress on Mar 21, 2018 23:41:09 GMT
139 Routed to serve Aldwych as well. Why on earth would you want to do that? It'd take much longer - there is already far too much congestion on the south side of the Aldwych one-way system. The 139 already serves stops on Lancaster Place (north end of Waterloo Bridge) in both directions, giving easy access to the Aldwych area. |
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Post by rmz19 on Mar 22, 2018 12:32:58 GMT
139 Routed to serve Aldwych as well. Why on earth would you want to do that? It'd take much longer - there is already far too much congestion on the south side of the Aldwych one-way system. The 139 already serves stops on Lancaster Place (north end of Waterloo Bridge) in both directions, giving easy access to the Aldwych area. Exactly, it was rerouted to bypass the Aldwych one-way system alongside the 176 for that very reason you stated. One thing I would change with the 139 though is the small deviation via Duncannon Street, I acknowledge the purpose is to share the stop with the 176 as they both head towards the same direction however it adds unnecessary time to the route. It might be a non-issue but it bugs me a little. Perhaps the stop on Duncannon Street can be relocated further up to avoid this 'inconvenience' if you like. |
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Post by COBO on Mar 22, 2018 12:50:44 GMT
92 towards St Raphael's North rerouted between Greenford Roundabout and Greenford Station via Ingram Way and Oldfield Lane North instead of Greenford Road and Rockware Avenue.
105 towards Greenford Station rerouted between Greenford Roundabout and Greenford Station via Ingram Way and Oldfield Lane North instead of Greenford Road and Rockware Avenue. Extended from Greenford Station to Westway Cross Retail Park via Rockware Avenue, Greenford Road and Green Park Way.
This is so that Oldfield Lane North is served both ways and Westway Cross is linked with Greenford Broadway and Southall.
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Post by twobellstogo on Jun 16, 2018 10:39:08 GMT
The 269 towards Bexleyheath goes via (and stops at) Asda on arrival at Bexleyheath : I think it would be sensible for buses leaving Bexleyheath to do the same?...
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Jun 23, 2018 20:44:32 GMT
Divert Route 484 into East Dulwich Sainsbury's. This would give disabled passengers from Camberwell Green a direct bus into the supermarket instead of going round the houses on Route 42. It also would relieve pressure on the Quorn Road bus stop which is busy with passengers waiting for the bus to Peckham Rye.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Jun 23, 2018 23:13:28 GMT
Route 75 - Curtail to West Croydon Bus Station, alllowing the 75 and 157 to once again provide a regular service along the Anerley to Croydon corridor into the bus station in both directions.
Route 197 - Change the terminus in Croydon to Fairfield Halls using the 75 stand. If the temporary Croydon pedestrianisation scheme is made permanent, this would be a sensible solution compared to now.
Route 202 - Serve Lower Sydenham Sainsbury's.
Route 358 - Diverted between Anerley Robin Hood and Elmers End via Elmers End Road to improve reliability. Route 194 would provide a service between Penge and Elmers End via Croydon Road, while the 356 would continue to serve Elmers End between Penge and the Robin Hood.
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Post by vjaska on Jun 23, 2018 23:55:27 GMT
Route 75 - Curtail to West Croydon Bus Station, alllowing the 75 and 157 to once again provide a regular service along the Anerley to Croydon corridor into the bus station in both directions. Route 197 - Change the terminus in Croydon to Fairfield Halls using the 75 stand. If the temporary Croydon pedestrianisation scheme is made permanent, this would be a sensible solution compared to now. Route 202 - Serve Lower Sydenham Sainsbury's. Route 358 - Diverted between Anerley Robin Hood and Elmers End via Elmers End Road to improve reliability. Route 194 would provide a service between Penge and Elmers End via Croydon Road, while the 356 would continue to serve Elmers End between Penge and the Robin Hood. 75 - I don't particularly see why the 75 should be cut back because it parallels the 157 - students going to Croydon College use the 75 right to the stand at Fairfield Halls as the college is right outside and it's not a handful of students, you can get decent loadings. I know this as I was a student at the college for 3 years and I caught the 75 sometimes from Norwood Junction. This is one which really should be left alone - I also don't think there is any space at West Croydon for a terminating bus route especially as the X26 is still terminating on Wellesley Road. 197 - I agree it's current stand isn't ideal and really the stupid pedestrian scheme shouldn't of went ahead, hopefully it's reversed at some point along with the stand changes and the 197 can return to it's Katherine Street stand along with the 264. 202 - I can understand this one and makes sense 358 - The problem with this is it the 358 does a good job of assisting the busy 227 along Beckenham Road given they both run to Crystal Palace even though the 358 goes via a slightly longer route and it splits the passengers between both routes - if it was removed, I could see the 227 being absolutely swamped even more than currently. Whilst the 194 is left, it only follows the 227 as far as Penge before branching off to Sydenham. Despite it's length, I don't particularly feel the 358 is unreliable and I don't think it should be changed. The 432 should be extended to Elmers End via Birkbeck to provide new links and a direct link between Elmers End & Crystal Palace. |
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Jun 24, 2018 0:04:33 GMT
Route 75 - Curtail to West Croydon Bus Station, alllowing the 75 and 157 to once again provide a regular service along the Anerley to Croydon corridor into the bus station in both directions. Route 197 - Change the terminus in Croydon to Fairfield Halls using the 75 stand. If the temporary Croydon pedestrianisation scheme is made permanent, this would be a sensible solution compared to now. Route 202 - Serve Lower Sydenham Sainsbury's. Route 358 - Diverted between Anerley Robin Hood and Elmers End via Elmers End Road to improve reliability. Route 194 would provide a service between Penge and Elmers End via Croydon Road, while the 356 would continue to serve Elmers End between Penge and the Robin Hood. 75 - I don't particularly see why the 75 should be cut back because it parallels the 157 - students going to Croydon College use the 75 right to the stand at Fairfield Halls as the college is right outside and it's not a handful of students, you can get decent loadings. I know this as I was a student at the college for 3 years and I caught the 75 sometimes from Norwood Junction. This is one which really should be left alone - I also don't think there is any space at West Croydon for a terminating bus route especially as the X26 is still terminating on Wellesley Road. 197 - I agree it's current stand isn't ideal and really the stupid pedestrian scheme shouldn't of went ahead, hopefully it's reversed at some point along with the stand changes and the 197 can return to it's Katherine Street stand along with the 264. 202 - I can understand this one and makes sense 358 - The problem with this is it the 358 does a good job of assisting the busy 227 along Beckenham Road given they both run to Crystal Palace even though the 358 goes via a slightly longer route and it splits the passengers between both routes - if it was removed, I could see the 227 being absolutely swamped even more than currently. Whilst the 194 is left, it only follows the 227 as far as Penge before branching off to Sydenham. Despite it's length, I don't particularly feel the 358 is unreliable and I don't think it should be changed. The 432 should be extended to Elmers End via Birkbeck to provide new links and a direct link between Elmers End & Crystal Palace. Re: 75, the only other solution in that case is for the bus to do a loop into West Croydon in the southbound direction as well. West Croydon is an important hub for bus/rail connections and to dump 75 passengers at the stop before the lights into the bus station isn't ideal for those who actually want to go there. Removing the loop may have improved reliability, but has lost connections. I like your idea of extending the 432 instead actually along Elmers End Road. |
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Post by vjaska on Jun 24, 2018 1:10:16 GMT
75 - I don't particularly see why the 75 should be cut back because it parallels the 157 - students going to Croydon College use the 75 right to the stand at Fairfield Halls as the college is right outside and it's not a handful of students, you can get decent loadings. I know this as I was a student at the college for 3 years and I caught the 75 sometimes from Norwood Junction. This is one which really should be left alone - I also don't think there is any space at West Croydon for a terminating bus route especially as the X26 is still terminating on Wellesley Road. 197 - I agree it's current stand isn't ideal and really the stupid pedestrian scheme shouldn't of went ahead, hopefully it's reversed at some point along with the stand changes and the 197 can return to it's Katherine Street stand along with the 264. 202 - I can understand this one and makes sense 358 - The problem with this is it the 358 does a good job of assisting the busy 227 along Beckenham Road given they both run to Crystal Palace even though the 358 goes via a slightly longer route and it splits the passengers between both routes - if it was removed, I could see the 227 being absolutely swamped even more than currently. Whilst the 194 is left, it only follows the 227 as far as Penge before branching off to Sydenham. Despite it's length, I don't particularly feel the 358 is unreliable and I don't think it should be changed. The 432 should be extended to Elmers End via Birkbeck to provide new links and a direct link between Elmers End & Crystal Palace. Re: 75, the only other solution in that case is for the bus to do a loop into West Croydon in the southbound direction as well. West Croydon is an important hub for bus/rail connections and to dump 75 passengers at the stop before the lights into the bus station isn't ideal for those who actually want to go there. Removing the loop may have improved reliability, but has lost connections. I like your idea of extending the 432 instead actually along Elmers End Road. Regarding West Croydon, I understand that and in an ideal world, it would be great to see it happen - as you rightly say, West Croydon is an important hub, but the problem with doing that is Station Road snarls up a lot and would add time on - personally, I think Station Road should be closed to all traffic except buses & trams in both directions rather than eastbound like it is now. If that happened, then yes, I'd support the 75 serving West Croydon Bus Station in both directions  |
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