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Post by busman on Apr 4, 2017 7:39:57 GMT
I fear for route 398, it's greatly underused , even after the welcome addition of an evening and Sunday service. I would to see it diverted to run along Roxeth Green Avenue and then join 114 and 140 and come into South Harrow via Shaftesbury Avenue. I remember this route when it was run by Scorpio coaches using some really archaic vehicles back in the 1980's. It has always been low frequency and mainly for hyper-local journeys. I was surprised to see it gain an evening and Sunday service. Whilst the route serves a lot of stations, the half hourly frequency means that it is not turn up and ride. I'm sure many passengers would instead opt for the 114,140, 487 or H12 to make their journeys.It should either be cut back to Mon - Sat except late evenings perhaps with a turn up and ride frequency or extended at either end to more useful destinations such as Greenford Red Lion via Westway Cross and Mount Vernon Hospital via Ruislip Lido. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 20:46:16 GMT
375 is a route I'd like to use more often. Running between Romford and Passingford Bridge via some nice watering holes at Havering - atte-Bower and Stapleford Abbots. However with a 90 minute frequency between buses , if you go there you've got to stay there in multiples of 90 minutes. No evening service as well, so have a second bus on the route would double the frequency to 45 minutes.
Before TFL took the route over it had a hourly frequency, so reduced after TFL took it over which must be unusual.
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Post by RandomBusesGirl on Apr 4, 2017 21:36:49 GMT
375 is a route I'd like to use more often. Running between Romford and Passingford Bridge via some nice watering holes at Havering - atte-Bower and Stapleford Abbots. However with a 90 minute frequency between buses , if you go there you've got to stay there in multiples of 90 minutes. No evening service as well, so have a second bus on the route would double the frequency to 45 minutes. Before TFL took the route over it had a hourly frequency, so reduced after TFL took it over which must be unusual. This hasn't got a chance to happen, TfL will never spend the money (why else do we have so many cuts atm) and there isn't enough patronage to support it either. Don't forget the entire route is duplicated by commercial GAL route 575, which is double-deck and continues past Passingford Bridge to Harlow (or even Brighton Southend in the summer season). Most cross-boundary services are treated with reserve and stand little chance of their service getting a boost anytime soon - if anything, they will be either withdrawn or curtailed (like 167 to Loughton, and there's also a proposal for 298 to stop serving Cranborne Industrial Estate in Potter's Bar altogether). This thread also has other insights as to why 375 would rather cease altogether than get a service boost: tangytango.proboards.com/thread/9992/route-402?page=2 |
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Post by twobellstogo on Apr 4, 2017 21:49:38 GMT
Send one of the Bexleyheath Garage terminating routes via Woolwich Road and Long Lane to the garage rather than Mayplace Road West - to give a second service to Woolwich Road. I'd nominate the B16.
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Post by snoggle on Apr 4, 2017 22:06:10 GMT
375 is a route I'd like to use more often. Running between Romford and Passingford Bridge via some nice watering holes at Havering - atte-Bower and Stapleford Abbots. However with a 90 minute frequency between buses , if you go there you've got to stay there in multiples of 90 minutes. No evening service as well, so have a second bus on the route would double the frequency to 45 minutes. Before TFL took the route over it had a hourly frequency, so reduced after TFL took it over which must be unusual. This hasn't got a chance to happen, TfL will never spend the money (why else do we have so many cuts atm) and there isn't enough patronage to support it either. Don't forget the entire route is duplicated by commercial GAL route 575, which is double-deck and continues past Passingford Bridge to Harlow (or even Brighton in the summer season). Most cross-boundary services are treated with reserve and stand little chance of their service getting a boost anytime soon - if anything, they will be either withdrawn or curtailed (like 167 to Loughton, and there's also a proposal for 298 to stop serving Cranborne Industrial Estate in Potter's Bar altogether). This thread also has other insights as to why 375 would rather cease altogether than get a service boost: tangytango.proboards.com/thread/9992/route-402?page=2Brighton?? Wasn't it Southend or am I confuddled? |
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Post by RandomBusesGirl on Apr 5, 2017 11:10:36 GMT
Brighton?? Wasn't it Southend or am I confuddled? Eeeek you're right, it's Southend - corrected. Too many buses to Brighton I've done I suppose... Funny thing is I've confused the both sea towns since forever too 😞 |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 18:49:47 GMT
Brighton?? Wasn't it Southend or am I confuddled? Eeeek you're right, it's Southend - corrected. Too many buses to Brighton I've done I suppose... Funny thing is I've confused the both sea towns since forever too 😞 That's not that bad as they are both seaside towns, my mum confuses Eltham and Croydon 🙈 |
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Post by sid on Dec 24, 2017 15:30:44 GMT
One that occurred to me the other day is to change the last set down point for the 53 to the stand in Whitehall Place.
Not only a bit nearer to Trafalgar Square but it usually takes a few minutes to get everybody off the bus and a few passengers inevitably ask the driver for directions meanwhile a stack of buses are building up behind at the stop in Whitehall.
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Post by grubbysa on Dec 24, 2017 18:30:03 GMT
Instead of 326 doing the Dollis Valley loop in High Barnet, I think it should just carry on straight with 384 instead serving the estate.
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Post by snoggle on Dec 24, 2017 21:30:53 GMT
One that occurred to me the other day is to change the last set down point for the 53 to the stand in Whitehall Place. Not only a bit nearer to Trafalgar Square but it usually takes a few minutes to get everybody off the bus and a few passengers inevitably ask the driver for directions meanwhile a stack of buses are building up behind at the stop in Whitehall. Shame it can't actually come up to Trafalgar Sq and set down in Northumberland Avenue. That would be better but it would cost 1 bus on the PVR and possibly 2 to cater for the worst queues on Whitehall. |
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Post by londonbuses2018 on Jan 17, 2018 20:08:32 GMT
An extension of Route N98 to Edgware this links both the Northern and Jubilee.
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Post by l1group on Jan 29, 2018 19:36:29 GMT
One that occurred to me the other day is to change the last set down point for the 53 to the stand in Whitehall Place. Not only a bit nearer to Trafalgar Square but it usually takes a few minutes to get everybody off the bus and a few passengers inevitably ask the driver for directions meanwhile a stack of buses are building up behind at the stop in Whitehall. Shame it can't actually come up to Trafalgar Sq and set down in Northumberland Avenue. That would be better but it would cost 1 bus on the PVR and possibly 2 to cater for the worst queues on Whitehall. Just made me think that all Whitehall terminating night routes (basically 53N, N381) could terminate at a new bus stop northbound on Whitehall just opposite the southbound set of bus stops just after Trafalgar Square. It can feel like a long walk from Whitehall to Trafalgar Square, did that walk from the N2 twice (when it ran to Whitehall - ended up getting an N87 one stop, one time!). Most likely won't happen, but we can dream of this small change  |
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Post by VPL630 on Jan 29, 2018 20:31:52 GMT
486 to BX Garage in place of the 422 so the 422 can have a proper stand
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Post by Nathan on Jan 29, 2018 21:11:15 GMT
486 to BX Garage in place of the 422 so the 422 can have a proper stand Or even route 132 to BX could work and be logical |
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Post by southlondonbus on Jan 29, 2018 21:37:32 GMT
Either way it would restore a lost link from BX to North Greenwich and like said would allow the 422 to have a proper stand.
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