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Post by overgroundcommuter on Oct 11, 2017 11:24:17 GMT
The Forest Hill Society raised this with Caroline Pidgeon recently, alas the question as there is clearly demand for late night Overground services south of New Cross Gate.
Currently the RRB's run every 5 mins between NXG and Crystal Palace, with deckers between London Bridge and West Croydon. The NXG to Crystal Palace option using single deckers may be an option.
6bph NXG-CP
6tph - LBG-WCY.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Oct 3, 2017 14:44:47 GMT
450 in Crystal Palace as it does a loop around the Kingswood Estate.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Jul 9, 2017 16:34:56 GMT
I don't know much about the area, but can talk from a Lewisham perspective.
The 129 will give much needed relief to the 108 to North Greenwich which is already largely an uncomfortable bus ride to the O2. I'd be more likely to get the 129 there once it launches considering it'll still be a short route.
Losing the 180 will mean there will no longer be a direct route to Abbey Wood, but the hopper fare allows to go via the 54/122 to Woolwich. I sympathise with those passengers who live along the Lewisham/Greenwich corridor who'll see a double decker replaced with a single decker which only goes to North Greenwich instead of Charlton, Woolwich, Abbey Wood and Thamesmead. However there is also a regular DLR rail service serving the corridor as well.
As mentioned, the 177 will be rammed. This route will require a frequency increase after the changes.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Jun 18, 2017 1:51:11 GMT
My only concern is that for passengers that use those two stops, they'll be forced onto already busy 63's to Peckham with a cut in capacity with the loss of the 363s.
However, if it improves the reliability of the 363 south of Honor Oak, then it should go ahead.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Feb 12, 2017 22:26:32 GMT
I don't know if this is an entirely serious proposal given the thread it's on but in all honesty what is the point? It'll be either a reduced service to Victoria and Lewisham or an excessive level of service between Camberwell and Catford. The section between Camberwell & Catford is very busy so I don't think it would be excessive. It's no coincidence that the 176 runs along a large chunk of that section and received a frequency increase a while ago and yet still, it's very busy along there. Stanstead Road towards Catford really affects the reliability of the route which isn't helped in the evening peak with the traffic stretching back to Dulwich Library. Considering there are plenty of turns to Catford, Forest Hill or Dulwich library, something should be done to improve the reliability of what is already a long-winded route while maintaining a connection to Lewisham. Without a route to Lewisham, they'd be pressure on the 122, 484 and P4, which are already busy routes. As mentioned, both the 185 and 176 were given frequency improvements to help the busy section between Forest Hill and Camberwell Green which were quickly absorbed. |
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Feb 10, 2017 19:59:47 GMT
How about splitting Route 185 into two routes to improve reliability? 185 would operate between Victoria and Catford or Catford Garage only with the existing PVR. Another double decker route would operate between Camberwell and Lewisham with a lower PVR to maintain connections along Lordship Lane and the lower half of Stanstead Road to Lewisham. Lewisham would lose it's remaining (in)direct bus connection to Victoria, but has alternatives with one bus change thanks to the hopper fare. How about swapping ends over with the 171. send the 185 to Catford Garage, then send the 171 to Hither Green. A bit drastic, as it's probably not needed throughout the day. Maybe the other route could be a streatham to Lewisham via the south circular. Reliability of this route would be questioned however. Someones proposed it. I can't see a Streatham to Lewisham route working due to the traffic along the south Circular in Dulwich and Stanstead Road towards Catford. Not to mention the loss of a direct Lewisham bus along the majority of Lordship Lane. The other thought for the secondary route would be to divert the route from Goose Green along Route 37 to Peckham Bus station. This would add new connections to Peckham along the north end of Stanstead Road and parts of Lordship Lane not served by the 197, 363 or P13. It'd also relieve the 37. Plus there's capacity at the bus station since the 136 was extended. |
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Feb 9, 2017 21:45:13 GMT
How about splitting Route 185 into two routes to improve reliability?
185 would operate between Victoria and Catford or Catford Garage only with the existing PVR.
Another double decker route would operate between Camberwell and Lewisham with a lower PVR to maintain connections along Lordship Lane and the lower half of Stanstead Road to Lewisham.
Lewisham would lose it's remaining (in)direct bus connection to Victoria, but has alternatives with one bus change thanks to the hopper fare.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Jan 7, 2017 21:34:57 GMT
The 37 would be extended to Richmond on Boxing Day. With no shops open, it'd be quicker to do that journey than it is to do Peckham to Putney Heath now!
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Jan 7, 2017 21:28:59 GMT
197 to Peckham (Aylesham Centre)
12 to Dulwich Library
185 to home (WVL)
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Dec 4, 2016 18:18:05 GMT
All 7s are curtailed to Marble Arch yet not a single driver at the moment has changed their iBus. The 137 is also curtailed but pretty much every bus has changed its iBus destination. It annoys me when wrong information is given out! From what I was told by a driver the curtailment function doesn't always work if the bus is not theoretically running late enough and therefore has to be amended remotely by ibus. Perhaps in the above instant the 137's ibus was done as such whereas the 7's weren't. I mainly find when the 12's are on a short run from Dulwich Library, the destination doesn't change until the second bus stop by iBus. |
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Nov 17, 2016 19:50:35 GMT
ITV News report.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Nov 6, 2016 19:53:27 GMT
Today appeared to be the first day where the 185 was allocated MHV's as the majority of vehicles.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Oct 14, 2016 20:10:46 GMT
As mentioned, it's the mini roundabout that's the issue. And only one bus at a time can use Underhill Road unless they're at the bottom of Underhill Road where the junction with Lordship Lane widens.
I thought at one time the 363 would be diverted along the bottom section of Melford Road southbound to serve the Grove Tavern, but I think the Blind House on Underhill Road is the main reason the route has stayed as it is.
This YouTube video illustrates the issue.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Oct 12, 2016 20:18:10 GMT
The EH's look the sensible size to have down Underhill Road and Melford Road on the 363, where the roads are tiny and residential.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Oct 12, 2016 17:54:23 GMT
Reposted due to YouTube closing the channel the report was hosted on.
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