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Post by overgroundcommuter on Jul 29, 2021 23:22:34 GMT
A short section of the A205 near the Horniman Museum is closed due to a burst water main prompting a set of diversions - the 176 and 197 are bypassing Forest Hill. The 185 is diverted via Kirkdale and Dartmouth Road. What is interesting is the P4 isn’t missing any stops - it’s going via Sydenham Hill and Sydenham Rise, doing a U-turn at a notorious roundabout to facilitate this. As I was going to Lewisham I wanted to wait for one, but an enormous gap in the service meant the 185 was the faster option. The P4 missed one stop towards Brixton at Horniman Museum but was able to serve the Horminan stop towards Lewisham. That diversion finally finished on Thursday afternoon in the northbound direction for all routes. Southbound was normal route from Tuesday. |
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Post by overgroundcommuter on May 7, 2021 2:05:42 GMT
Peckham to Heathrow - 197 and X26
Peckham to Redhill - 197 and 405
Peckham to Bluewater - 177 and 96
Streatham to Dorking - 57 and 465
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Apr 18, 2021 17:12:01 GMT
They don't need major rebranding.
Richmond/Clapham Junction to Stratford: North London Line
Highbury & Islington/Dalston Junction to West Croydon/Crystal Palace/New Cross: East London Line, reverting back to the LUL brand name.
Highbury & Islington/Dalston Junction to Clapham Junction: South London Line
Euston to Watford Junction: North West London Line
Romford to Upminster: Elmerson line, named after the intermediate station on the branch line.
West Anglia lines: Lea Valley Line.
The GOBLIN one is the one I'm stuck with a suggestion for.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Apr 18, 2021 17:01:17 GMT
How did the 12 & 436 used to get so busy about 8 years back? The 436 drop was down to the reroute, but what happened with the 12? People don't necessarily take a bus into the west end anymore. The new demographics of Peckham possibly prefer the southeastern service to LB or Victoria or the LO and Jubilee from Canada Water to reach Central London. Also the cutback to Whitehall for a few months wouldn't have helped either. I'd also say the drop in frequency and the 20mph speed limit in Southwark hasn't helped either with Route 12. Trains from Peckham Rye with the connections to the tube at Canada Water are a lot more attractive than crawling along the streets of Peckham, Camberwell and Walworth. The current trend is for passengers to use buses as feeder routes to tube and rail stations, so I'd suspect it's now being used to get to either Elephant & Castle tube and Peckham Rye. The 36 on the other hand connects with stations including New Cross Gate, Queen's Road Peckham, Oval, Vauxhall, Pimlico, Victoria, Hyde Park Corner, Marble Arch, Paddington, Royal Oak and Queen's Park, so there's plenty of patronage there for each of those stations. 436 will probably see a boost again when the Northern line extension opens. |
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Apr 14, 2021 23:18:42 GMT
While obviously not the worst borough by any means, Southwark is split. Z1/Z2 have excellent links into Central London as well as neighbouring boroughs. In Peckham for example, it's possible to travel on one bus to Queen's Park or South Kensington on one bus. Same for Camberwell where you can go to Shepherd's Bush on the 148 without changing.
However the south of the borough is a different story. Dulwich lost their direct bus to London Bridge and the City when the 40 was rerouted to Clerkenwell Green, West to East Dulwich involves getting the P13 which takes a indirect route between the two areas getting stuck in traffic on the South Circular, while the Kingswood Estate in West Dulwich is served by the 450 which seems to be the sole purpose for those residents who would otherwise have to walk to get the 3 to change at Crystal Palace for other routes that go further.
They also have no direct bus to anywhere else in the borough without changing bus.
There's also no direct bus from Dulwich to Nunhead, despite being neighbours, which involves a bus change at Peckham Rye for the 78.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Feb 22, 2021 2:39:27 GMT
Interesting one this. All tube stations that aren’t managed by TFL are all on the District Line. They are: Richmond, Barking, Wimbledon and Upminister. I think Stratford used to be British Rail managed, that was before the station was built over and before the Jubilee line went there. While Stratford is fully TfL these days, managed by LUL and TfL Rail, it used to be dual managed by LUL and whoever the franchisee of the East of England rail franchise is. That's why you'd see a separate ticket office for NR tickets. I believe Greater Anglia still use their own staff based at Stratford to dispatch their own trains. |
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Feb 22, 2021 2:23:25 GMT
I'll be voting for Luisa Poritt as my first preference, the second goes to the lesser of two evils, Khan.
Personally I'd rather not vote for any Labour candidate, but Khan isn't a Corbynite.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Feb 21, 2021 13:39:54 GMT
I remember seeing clips of a previous strike by Arriva drivers at TC where union drivers were blocking buses from leaving and taking pictures of drivers who had decided to cross the line driving. It's unacceptable in this day and age for staff who choose to cross the line to be harassed, especially if those staff aren't unionised and are just complying with their contract.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Jan 1, 2021 17:37:36 GMT
A few ideas to improve the network in inner South London Route 35 - option 1 - frequency reduced from 8bph to 7.5bph. PVR changed to 25. Option 2- no change. Route 45 - extended from Clapham Park to Mitcham via route 355. Frequency changed to 5bph, PVR revised to 16. Route 185 - frequency reduced from 7.5bph to 7bph. PVR changed to 23. Route 355 - withdrawn. Route 415 - option 1 - extended from Tulse Hill to Anerley via route 432. Frequency increased to 6bph, PVR revised to 18. Option 2 - no change. Route 431 - new route from Streatham Green Lane to Peabody Estate via the P13 routing. Frequency of 4bph and a PVR of 5. Route 432 - option 1 - withdrawn. Option 2 - no change. Route 437 - new route from Lewisham to Clapham Junction - operating via route 185 through Catford as far as Dulwich, the A205 South Circ between Dulwich and Tulse Hill. Option 1 - up Tulse Hill to Brixton then via route 37 to Clapham Junction, standing at Meyrick Arms. PVR of 11. Option 2 - send it straight down the A205 as far as Clapham Park, then running along Kings Avenue (replacing the 355), joining the 37 LoR there - PVR of 9. Operated using 70-capacity single decks due to a low bridge. Route P13 - withdrawn between Dulwich, The Grove and Streatham, subject to suitable stand space. Alternatively, diverted to terminate at Forest Hill. PVR revised to 7 (8 if to Forest Hill) Route G1 - withdrawn between Streatham Station and Green Lane. PVR changed to 12. The main aim of this exercise would be to reduce costs, improve/maintain coverage & relliablity and open up some faster and unique new links. I appreciate the P13 changes may split some journeys in a rather awkward manner, but most others would have their connections improved. There could be a net saving of around 4-7 buses. As always, very interested to hear what others think, would be especially interested to hear from vjaska . Some interesting ideas here: The 35 frequency increase hasn't actually worked south of Elephant so cutting it slightly wouldn't be the worst thing ever. The only issue would be if demand north of Elephant returns again as that's were the issues were with overcrowding even with the increased frequency. The 45 & 355 ideas would probably work although currently, the 45 end to end is apparently 45 minutes from Clapham Park to Elephant which personally is a little generous at times in all honesty. The big stumbling block however is you lose the very important local links from the doctors surgery on Streatham Place to King's College Hospital as well as the round the corner link to Brixton Hill from Clapham Park. The 185 is slightly outside my remit but I do believe that the corridor between Camberwell & Forest Hill is very busy and likely needs at the very least it's current frequency but overgroundcommuter would be the best to ask on that front as I believe he is/was a frequent user of the corridor. In conjunction with a new 437 route though, don't see why that couldn't work. The 415 & 432 changes I'm dead against - the three routes on the Tulse Hill corridor are very much needed as the 432 loads heavily at Brixton even during the pandemic despite the 432 not stopping by the station. The 432's recent frequency increase has helped to mitigate some of the overcrowding problems it had which resulted in 432's passing Effra Road & Tulse Hill stops without picking up people The 431 idea is an interesting idea but sadly, the Peabody Estate residents are against buses entering the estate as per their responses when TfL proposed to divert the 315 that way via Rosendale Road. The other issue in conjunction with the P13 idea is that it splits cross Tulse Hill journeys and I think keeping the P13 intact at the south west end but with a cutback to Peckham would be preferable The 437 idea in principle is something that South London has long lacked - east to west links of which currently there is very few and arguably the 37 is the most well known and well used of the lot. Using the routing you suggested, I'd take Option 1 but modify it slightly to run via Lancaster Avenue & Norwood Road which is the diversion route for double deckers when Norwood Road in Tulse Hill is shut to enable double deck operation. As ever, the A205 west of Tulse Hill will be an issue but I think it just handle it. A link between Catford & Brixton has been another that I've always thought had potential. The G1 idea wouldn't really impact on anyone - that's the section is easily the least used as Tesco is usually the first main pick up point and part of me thinks you could squeeze it into the stand at Streatham without needing to move anything out. Despite Covid, the 185 really needs the frequency it currently has as the 176 was reduced to 6bph in each direction. vjaska is right that the Camberwell to Forest Hill corridor is very busy and needs all the buses it can get. The 40 for example relieves the 176 and 185 between Camberwell and Dulwich. The P13 terminating at Forest Hill would see that section overbussed and would lose an important link to West Dulwich, Tulse Hill and Streatham. The route is the only connection between West Dulwich station and the shops in East Dulwich along with Sainsbury's. It was bad enough when the 115 was curtailed to Tulse Hill (running to Dulwich College in the peak) when it used to provide a useful connection to Streatham from Forest Hill. It's also worth noting that the P13 at one time the route terminated at Horniman Museum with stand space in Sydenham Rise, which is now a bus stop on the 356 route. |
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Oct 17, 2020 0:04:30 GMT
Dulwich Common is closed between Lordship Lane and College Road. P4 is diverted from the Grove along Lordship Lane, East Dulwich Grove to line of route at North Dulwich station, not serving Dulwich Village, College Road or Dulwich Common. P13 is diverted towards Streatham from Melford Road, right Lordship Lane, left East Dulwich Road, left Dulwich Village, onto College Road, right onto Dulwich Common to line of route. Towards New Cross Gate is the opposite but continues along Lordship Lane to Underhill Road, then line of route. In effect the route double backs on itself. Are buses using the roundabout to turn around when heading towards Lordship Lane? Yes, but only in one direction. P4 towards Lewisham and P13 towards New Cross Gate (as it heads towards the Grove). |
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Oct 16, 2020 13:35:37 GMT
Dulwich Common is closed between Lordship Lane and College Road.
P4 is diverted from the Grove along Lordship Lane, East Dulwich Grove to line of route at North Dulwich station, not serving Dulwich Village, College Road or Dulwich Common.
P13 is diverted towards Streatham from Melford Road, right Lordship Lane, left East Dulwich Road, left Dulwich Village, onto College Road, right onto Dulwich Common to line of route.
Towards New Cross Gate is the opposite but continues along Lordship Lane to Underhill Road, then line of route. In effect the route double backs on itself.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Oct 16, 2020 1:41:40 GMT
It'll be win win for the Tories if TfL goes bust. They can get Shaun Bailey to say that Khan wouldn't accept a bailout, while punishing road users by closing side streets and making bus lanes 24/7 and stripping TfL of revenue for four years with the fares freeze, even if it was Covid-19 that caused the recent issues, leaving next year's Mayoral election more of an open race as low paid commuters are punished by fare rises and poorer transport which may attract typical Labour voters to vote for Shaun Bailey to bring stability to our public transport system with a Conservative Government until 2024.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Oct 16, 2020 1:36:31 GMT
I would have thought TfL have done the numbers and the percentage that use the 455 to/from Ampere Way and Croydon Town Centre can be absorbed onto the existing Wimbledon tram services, although I'd still prefer to have the 455 over the S4 which will interchange with the trams at both Ampere Way and Waddon Marsh.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Oct 15, 2020 13:30:58 GMT
Ampere Way for Ikea loses the bus alternative to Croydon, so everyone from Croydon will have to use the already packed Tramlink into the town centre, being replaced by the S4 which only goes to Waddon Marsh.
The S4 doesn't even give passengers a direct connection to Sutton but retains the connection to Wallington lost with the 455's axing.
Splitting the 407 into two routes was inevitable sadly.
The 312 goes back to it's old 12A routing from Norwood Junction to Old Lodge Lane.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Sept 19, 2020 12:47:30 GMT
202 needs to be added to Arriva for Southwark as it runs in the borough along Crystal Palace Parade and Sydenham Hill Blackheath bound.
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